Busting Some Rothschild Family Facebook Memes

If you want to dispense racist, historically ignorant nonsense about wealthy Jews, you can hardly do better than Facebook. Quite a few memes have been going around about the Rothschild family (which, full disclosure, I have absolutely no link to other than having the same last name) and I wanted to take a look at three that caught my eye.

The first is a picture of prominent family member Jacob Rothschild, a respected British investment banker and a direct descendent of Mayer Amschel Rothschild. While Jacob is renowned for his business acumen and philanthropy, this particular meme isn’t so respectful, contrasting him to a crudely drawn picture of billionaire tyrant character Montgomery Burns from the Simpsons.

jacob rothschild

There’s also some text, full of the usual Rothschild-related distortions and lies. Part of it reads:

“My family is worth 500 trillion dollars.”

This is a ludicrous accusation that seems to have appeared out of thin air and been accepted as gospel truth by internet conspiracy theorists and anti-Semites. It obviously doesn’t pass the smell test, but just to be sure I looked for the source of the claim. There isn’t one, or at least not one I could find. It appears to be completely made up. It’s also impossible. The entire amount of financial assets held by the population of the earth is a bit less than $200 trillion. As of 2011, the total worth of the derivatives market was about $600 trillion, and there’s nowhere near enough money in the world to pay that off should the need arise.

The richest living member of the Rothschild family, Benjamin de Rothschild, is estimated to be worth about two billion dollars. Only two Rothschilds, but not Jacob, appear on the Forbes list of richest people in the world – which, of course, has led to a separate conspiracy about Forbes colluding with the family to keep their true wealth quiet. But not so quiet as to keep internet sleuths in the dark, I guess.

As usual, this is a nugget of information that only those “with their eyes open” know.

“We own nearly every central bank in the world.”

There are all kinds of goofy conspiracies about the Rothschilds having central banks in all but 3 or 7 or 9 countries. However, as Brian pointed out in his Skeptoid episode about the Rothschild conspiracy theory, the era of the Rothschilds “controlling the world’s money supply” is long over. There are far more powerful banks around the world, controlling far greater sums of money.

The very fabric of the claim is silly. A “central bank” is by definition not a privately owned institution, but a governmental mandate. It’s the entity responsible for overseeing monetary policy, interest rates and currency supply for a nation. Saying the current Rothschilds “own” the Bank of England is like saying Bill Gates owns the Federal Reserve. He doesn’t and they don’t.

“We financed both sides of every war since Napoleon.”

Yet another conspiracy theory based on a poor interpretation of history, mixed with old-fashioned Jew hating.

While the Rothschilds did invest greatly in the Bank of England during the Napoleonic Wars, the simple reason for this is that a French victory would have been terrible for their financial holdings. World War I saw the decline of the Rothschild fortune paralleled by the rise of the International Monetary Fund, and by World War II, the family was on the run from the Nazis. Financing “both sides” of these crushingly expensive wars would have bankrupted the family many times over. It’s also a repellant smear to accuse Jews of being complicit in financing the murder of millions of other Jews.

“We own your news, the media, your oil and your government.”

No, they don’t. They really don’t.

Another meme popping up on Facebook is specifically about Rothschild ownership of central banks. It reads:

“There are only 9 countries in the world without a Rothschild Central Bank: Russia, China, Iceland, Cuba, Syria, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, Hungary. Isn’t it funny that we are always at war with these countries?”

rothschild central bank

Putting aside the non-existence of “Rothschild Central Banks,” this is a strange list of countries to be lumped together. China, Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea are communist countries with tightly regulated state-owned economies. Hungary and Iceland probably are on the list because their banks were nationalized in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis. Of course, conspiracy mongers interpret this as these countries “kicking the Rothschilds out” when no such thing is true. As for Russia, Iran and Syria – who knows? And it’s an arbitrary list, so who cares?

Also, while it’s true that the US seems to have perpetual conflict with many of these countries, that has far more to do with their oppressive and aggressive regimes suppressing human rights and provoking confrontations with the rest of the world than any mucking about by the Rothschilds. And I must have missed the last time we went to war with Iceland, but maybe it’s in a non-Rothschild funded history book.

The whole “Rothschild Central Bank” myth is many different kinds of wrong and should be dismissed without a second thought.

The third meme I want to knock down is by far the most anti-Semitic, and that’s saying something. It’s that Hitler was secretly a Rothschild, or generally had a Jewish grandparent.

One of the versions I found goes like this:

“Adolf Hitler was a Rothschild. This is the same family that owns the US Fed and controls our politicians.”

While some DNA testing has revealed that Hitler might have had some Jewish history in his lineage, this is probably true of almost any European born in the 19th century. It’s also a far cry from “Hitler was a Rothschild.” Because this is completely absurd.

hitler rothschild

The “Hitler’s grandfather was Jewish” claim comes from the fact that his family line gets a little murky when you trace it back to the early 1800’s. His father Alois was born illegitimately to a woman named Maria Shicklgruber, who never revealed the name of the child’s father and died 40 years before Adolf Hitler was born. There are several possibilities for who Alois’ father could have been, and historians have generally agreed that it was a journeyman named Johann Georg Hiedler. This was the name that ended up on Alois’ birth certificate, though it was long after his birth.

As with most internet rumors, this one rest solely on rumor taken as fact. As historian Ian Kershaw writes in his book Hubris:

Rumours [that Hitler’s grandfather was Jewish] circulated in Munich cafes in the early 1920s, and were fostered by sensationalist journalism of the foreign press during the 1930s. It was suggested that the name `Huttler’ was Jewish, `revealed’ that he could be traced to a Jewish family called Hitler in Bucharest, and even claimed that his father had been sired by Baron Rothschild, in whose house in Vienna his grandmother had allegedly spent some time as a servant. But the most serious speculation about Hitler’s supposed Jewish background has occurred since the Second World War, and is directly traceable to the memoirs of the leading Nazi lawyer and Governor General of Poland, Hans Frank, dictated in his Nuremberg cell while awaiting the hangman.

Frank, a Nazi stooge executed after Nuremberg, was ordered by Hitler to investigate his family history. He allegedly concocted a theory that Maria had been employed as a housekeeper for the Jewish Frankenberger family in Graz, Austria. While there, she was impregnated by the family’s 19-year-old son, Leopold – making a Hitler partially Jewish.

However, there’s no subsequent evidence that Leopold Frankenberger actually existed, or that there was a family of that name living in Graz at the time of Alois’ birth, or that Maria had ever been to Graz. Indeed, according to Kershaw, Jews weren’t even allowed to live in Graz until the 1860’s – two decades before Adolf was born.

Both theories, the Rothschild rumor and the Frankenberger story, are dismissed by serious historians. No compelling proof exists that links Hitler’s direct lineage to any Jews – and certainly not the Rothschild family. Without the fictional connection between Lionel Rothschild and Maria Shickelgruber, and no evidence of her working for the family has ever been found, the absurd idea falls apart completely.

To be completely clear, Evelyn Rothschild doesn’t “control the government” and his great-grandfather didn’t knock up Adolf Hitler’s grandmother. It’s completely insane and has no foundation in truth – like the rest of these Rothschild rumors.

Of course, Facebook memes like these don’t need a foundation in truth. They just need people gullible, ignorant and hateful enough to share them.

About Mike Rothschild

Mike Rothschild is a writer and editor based in Pasadena. He writes about scams, conspiracy theories, hoaxes and pop culture fads. He's also a playwright and screenwriter. Follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/rothschildmd.
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485 Responses to Busting Some Rothschild Family Facebook Memes

  1. Vere Nekoninda says:

    What can you tell us about Evelyn Rothschild, his current job or activities, and his connection, or lack thereof, to the European banking branch of the family?

    • I can’t tell you anything about any Rothschild that’s not already public knowledge.

      • Vere Nekoninda says:

        I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear in my question. All of your blogs contain primarily public knowledge, but much of it is new to me. I read your blogs, because you provide me with new-to-me, interesting information. I asked about Evelyn, because he is the currently living member of the evil quartet image, which you show as your last selection from the Rothschild Facebook memes. And because your penultimate paragraph tells us only what he doesn’t do (“control the government”), not what he does do.

        I felt your blog would be more complete if you offered a sentence or two on the real activities of this person, as you did for most of the other people your blog covered.

        • From a 2012 interview with The Telegraph: “Now, Sir Evelyn’s main role is as chairman of EL Rothschild, the company he founded with his third wife, Lynn Forester, in 2003 to hold ventures in India and an investment in The Economist, which he chaired from 1972 to 1989.”

          He’s an investment banker and philanthropist.

        • krisdevalck brown says:

          everything I have read says the Rothschild and 7 other families had control of 100’s of Trillions of dollars. they say these jewish people were only about Israel and Jewish lives. is everything I have read not reliable, are they making this stuff up, do all these different sites come from some Jew hater. I need to know. I am researching and keep hitting dead ends. I, will find the “truth”, whatever that could be I do not know.

          • Tomasz says:

            You can take it that any theory that you come across that claims Jews – a tribe whose religion was seconded and updated by two very powerful religions that have obsessed over, sanctified and villified Jews for two millennia – exist to conspire against and dominate the world (whereas you can easily get a feel for what Jews consider to be high values by actually meeting with your nearest rabbi, not by scouring the internet’s unsourced accusations) are vestiges of the old tribal hatreds, the scapegoating by the REAL conspirators (being Europeans churches and aristocrats and their Arabian trading partners) that has led to the most severe genocide in history taking place in what was thought to be an enlightened age. Let Jews work through their identity, they are an old tribe. Don’t complicate things further by dredging up old nasty racist smears.

          • George says:

            It sounds like you have most of the facts. The Zionist Bankers rule the world from behind the curtain

          • People tend to be “repeaters.” They hear or read something and most simply take it as truth without question. Then, they “copy and paste” and continue to spread information without fact – checking. It’s very common. All you have to do to test this out for yourself is to make something up that sounds halfway plausible. Then make a meme out of it and start posting it on facebook and see how many people believe it and “share” it without fact checking any of it!

      • pencilvania says:

        Good article, I’m showing this to my sister. She is a internet conspiracy nut. She at one point also bought into this BS Rothschilds control all. (full disclosure she has gotten better, logic and time work on people in interesting ways)
        First of, saying any one group controls everything should automatically disqualify the argument being presented. There is plenty of stuff that clearly nature controls not humans. As for human affairs, with how many people are alive, it is impossible to control everything. Call out the BS. Really, everything. I was speeding over the limit the other day, you know what did not happen. A bunch of Jews or their agents descending on me to put a stop to my “extremist behavior”. When you say everything, it means anything from all things including me speeding: the decision in my head and the act itself. Whenever someone is attributing ridiculous powers to the people he/she is lambasting about, its usually a sign of of exaggerated dishonesty. It is much easier and much more simple to claim the jews or Rothchilds own all (or most) of the banks, governments, land, policy, media, wars, etc. than to actually give detailed accounts and show empirical evidence or records. It would take some kind of special unheard of evil to finance the Nazis being jews yourselves, get your fellow Jews murdered by the millions just so you can play the largest most effective sympathy card and use it to acquire enough wealth to control everything. More likely, like the author points out, these claims are mostly baseless. Another example, if the jews or Rothchilds whatever, control all then why allow other banking families. Have these people ever heard of the Morgans or Rockefellers or Bardi or Medici or Fuggar. How’s that for comedy, the Fuggar conspiracy. The Fuggars run everything, sticking their fuggar into everyone’s lives. Wouldn’t these other families be rivals to be dealt with? Why let them last as long as they have and still to this day? There are many logically loopholes to point out to these Anti-Semite claims regarding Rothschild. Blaming invisible enemies helps nobody. It takes away from the real criminals who ought to be spotted and brought to justice.

        • Tony Rushing says:

          Exactly. There isn’t anything you can say that isn’t already public knowledge. You have a very poor grasp of what journalism’s about when you Order others to completely dismiss the so called Rothschild myth. There is no impartiality in your “puff piece”. Have you blogged about Bernie Madoff yet? Was he a ” brilliant ” man who had a momentary lapse of reason? Or did he ruin untold number of fellow Jews and non-Jews lives, utterly and completely? Does calling a spade a spade make one racist or anti-semetic?

        • Ghoul-Ash says:

          All of the main banking families have intermarried among themselves for quite a while. The Rothschilds themselves had a policy of mostly marrying within the family (a relatively huge percentage of their marriages were between first cousins, or even, I believe, nieces or nephews, but obviously they couldn’t do without outside blood entirely).
          It’s a pyramid, with the Rothschilds (the ones who owned, estimatedly, 50% of the world’s wealth in 1900 and who, all of a sudden, basically disappeared from the public eye) at the top. There are different companies, but the board of directors are, to an amazing degree, interlocking – ‘competing’ companies that have the same people in ownership positions. When you get down to it, there are just a handful of asset-management and investment groups (such as the Vanguard Group) that have commanding levels of ownership in nearly every major corporation. That is a buffered and hidden method of control, but I would bet that those handful of asset management groups are owned by the same people, too.
          The vice-chair of the US Federal Reserve, Stanley Fisher, ran the Bank of Israel before taking up his current position. No possible conflict of interest there, of course.
          By the way, J.P. Morgan, at the time of his death, only personally held 19% of his net worth…

          • Richard Sharpe says:

            I’m astounded by the illogic of your last sentence. A person’s net worth is defined by the value of the assets that individually personally holds less the value of their personal debts. No one can “hold” only part of their net worth. But if you believe the conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds, logic (and facts) are obviously not your strong suit.

        • ShawnN says:

          Research Christopher Bollyn

          • Noah Dillon says:

            Looks like an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist repeating really old tropes and other nonsense.

          • ShawnN says:

            Sounds like the usual loser who only uses insults because they can’t deal with the actual reality of the world and how it operates. Insulting people proves you have no desire to actually do some critical thinking research. It’s the lazy man’s way of getting out of having to use any brainpower. And how can I be anti-semetic if I have no problem with languages. Why would you even think or consider that I have an issue with Semetic languages?

          • Noah Dillon says:

            I was referring to Christopher Bollyn, not you. I don’t know what you mean by the rest of this.

          • ShawnN says:

            I agree 100% with Christopher Bollyn

        • Wizardenai says:

          Pencilvania, & others here in the comment section. didn’t know if you are political, or if you were old enough when President Kennedy was assassinated, Or tuned in on any of his speeches. But I question ,where your dis-belief of a New World Order, & a group of WEALTHY people, with their assets added together can be a enormous amount. Not only what they own out right but their stock investment it only takes 51% to control a vote, so you don’t have to own a bank, oil wells, Real-estate (in which produces crops),or has underground Aquifer, Gold & Silver Mines or Stock. Now what would happen if someone your state buys the above mentioned commodities, cut of the supply.Calif., for ex: of water, food gas/oil, & money. Or raised the prices so high only the wealthy could afford it? It’s happening right now, in all of the USA. Have you bought a steak lately? If this group owns the majority of oil, they can do whatever they want with it, like cut all of us off. Can you imagine what the people would turn to CRIME against each other, as in assault to murder. Have you watched the news, & what is going on in other countries? Wake up & pay attention. You want fact on the NWO & who is behind it. Go to Youtube & watch Presidents Wilson, JF Kennedy & Trump, flat tell you in all of their speeches,about it, & still it goes right over their heads. We were warned years ago & now it may be to late, cause people post things as it has been done right here, on something they don’t know about. by saying “not true”, “he is a idiot”. Ever heard of “open Mind”, you might want to look it up, it goes with Freedom of Speech.You guys talk about spreading untrue facts! Miles who doesn’t do his research, that you complain about, is no different than you guys. Do your research before you spread lies, or stupidity.

          • Noah Dillon says:

            We actually had a test case like this in the ’70s with the oil crisis. It wasn’t good, but people weren’t going bonkers in the streets and murdering each other or whatever. Why would anyone cut off all oil? The hit to the economy would wipe out their investments!

            Consider, too, that oil and other fossil fuel use has been dropping dramatically in the past few decades as gas, solar, and wind power become more and more cost competitive. They’re already losing their market and their money. Pretty soon if they’ll be begging us to keep coming to the tap. The London School of Economics released a report a few years ago projecting that fossil fuel companies will likely lose billions of dollars in unsellable assets in the coming decades: well leases, drilling equipment, refineries, pipelines, extracted fuels, and so on and so on, because demand will be so low that they won’t be able to sell at any price! If these people have some kind of grand scheme then they sure picked a losing horse.

            Those are basically all true facts, I’ll point out. You didn’t provide any. Just speculation and shaming and allusions.

      • Tony Rushing says:

        You say the only connection you have is the surname. But you are his biggest apologist. And straight away attempt to dismiss Hitler’s alleged Jewish roots by disclaimer, via the paternal line, when most know that it is the Matriarch that determines who is Jewish. And to finance something doesn’t necessarily mean its being completely paid for by one single entity, as any Capitalists will tell you, you never put all your eggs in one basket, you get other investors to contribute in the raiding of the hen house. All you did was say a whole lot of nothing, and literally kiss yourJacob Rothschids ass. Montgomery Burns is much better looking, by the way. Keep on hacking, you may one day actually produce something of essence.

        • Maria Schicklgruber wasn’t Jewish. She was Roman Catholic.

          • william bryce says:

            Mr. Rothschild, in our article you claimed that none of the central banks are private… i have to ask if you bothered to do any research at all regarding that claim? the bank of england and the federal reserve are both privately owned… this is public and now common knowledge, so… what are you talking about? I’ll let you in on a secret, Mike – just because something is named “Central Bank of Yadayadaland” doesn’t mean it’s run by the government of Yadayadaland!!! (i know – your mind is blown, but it’s true) Also – when the banks are privately owned by them and they are the ones charging interest on all the loans issued by the banks, then it doesn’t take a mathematical genius to work out that it is indeed possible for them to be owed so much money that it would be nearly if not completely impossible to pay them off. It’s all well and good to be a critical thinker, but to be critical to the point of blindness and stupidity does not benefit mankind – so start researching properly before posting this utterly ridiculous article

          • Who owns the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve, then?

            And is Yadayadaland anywhere near Fredonia?

          • Well regarding the B.O.E. the first link is an actual news article by the BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/6/newsid_3806000/3806313.stm

            This second link is much more fun to read though 🙂 http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/626/economics/who-owns-the-bank-of-england/

            The Fed is much more complicated as Madam Yellen and the others are mere pawns and puppets for Rich Uncle Pennybags and the real life Gordon Gekko that secretly own it and thereby anyone in debt to them ;-)))

            While Occam’s razor and Hanlon’s razor (“never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”) or even Murphy’s law are usually the best analytical methods. One must never, ever underestimate the power of a Conspiracy Theory to win the day.

            P.S. – Folks like Madison, Mason, Hancock, Jefferson, Franklin and others have some pretty good observations on Human Nature, Power, Greed and scenarios where folks are most likely to do wrong. You seem like the sort of person that might actually enjoy reading about them.

            Have a wonderful and blessed day sir :)))

          • Noah Dillon says:

            Aren’t you forgetting founder Alexander Hamilton, who lobbied hard for a central bank? You can propose some obfuscating nonsense about how complicated the Fed system is, but that doesn’t lead to the claim that “the real life Gordon Gekko [secretly owns] it and thereby anyone in debt to them.” That’s simply silly. You might actually enjoy reading about how the Federal Reserve system is overseen and managed by two branches of the federal government and is basically just responsible for regulating banks and keeping the inflation rate at about 2%. It’s not hard to find that information. It’s impossible to find credible information about how it’s just a shadow government or whatever, since that’s silly. And providing links to “Who owns the B.O.E.” doesn’t say anything about the structure of the Fed, even though the articles you provide pretty unequivocally say that the BOE is PUBLICALLY owned.

          • So as to avoid confusion my first comment was intended for Mr. Rothschild but while I’m at it I’ll answer his second question.
            RE: “And is Yadayadaland anywhere near Fredonia?”

            Umm No………Yadayadaland is right next to Who-ville…………

          • Robert Gionis says:

            “Who owns the Federal Reserve?”

            The Federal Reserve System fulfills its public mission as an independent entity within government. It is not “owned” by anyone and is not a private, profit-making institution.

            As the nation’s central bank, the Federal Reserve derives its authority from the Congress of the United States. It is considered an independent central bank because its monetary policy decisions do not have to be approved by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branches of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by the Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms.

            However, the Federal Reserve is subject to oversight by the Congress, which often reviews the Federal Reserve’s activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute. Therefore, the Federal Reserve can be more accurately described as “independent within the government” rather than “independent of government.”

            The 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by the Congress as the operating arms of the nation’s central banking system, are organized similarly to private corporations–possibly leading to some confusion about “ownership.” For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year. http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm

          • Robert Gionis says: The Federal Reserve System fulfills its public mission as an independent entity within government. It is not “owned” by anyone and is not a private, profit-making institution. http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm

            Here is what smart people say about this:
            http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-owns-the-federal-reserve/10489

          • lawyerlib says:

            And being Roman Catholic is often another way of saying Jew in hiding.

      • BryanHR says:

        Mr Rothschild
        Fortune/Forbes as they have publicly stated do not include world leaders/kings/queens in their world richest lists because their fortunes are so vast that they’re not verifiable and usually spread across large families. The Rothschilds belong in this category. Some believe the Rothschilds may be the blood line of Christ.
        Rich people that do not want to be included in these magazines are not included. I personally know of a billionaire that is not mentioned in Fortune or Forbes but is listes on Bill Gates’ Giving Pledge, which is only for billionaires.

        • Noah Dillon says:

          Fortune doesn’t publish a list of richest people, as far as I can tell. Can you provide a link where they say they don’t measure the wealth of, like, kings/world leaders? How do the Rothschilds qualify as world leaders? What positions do they hold? What titles do they possess that would exempt them?

          NM Rothschild & Sons publishes financial statements. As of 2014 their net income is £34.435 million, compared to, say, Citigroup, which has a published net income of more than $7 billion. There’s also Edmond de Rothschild Group, which has assets of €100 billion. Citigroup has assets of almost $2 trillion. Jacob Rothschild’s RIT Group has assets of $3.4 billion (2008). And those are the companies. That’s split between management and probably shareholders and investors and stuff and doesn’t necessarily reflect their personal wealth.

          Forbes estimates the wealth of Queen Elizabeth II at about $500 million (http://www.forbes.com/sites/luisakroll/2011/04/22/just-how-rich-is-queen-elizabeth-and-her-family/#2715e4857a0b50a0a1957279), which would seem to contradict your claim that they don’t participate in that kind of speculation. It also looks like they rate several heads of state from around the world. So maybe I’m missing something or maybe you’re wrong. In any case, it doesn’t seem like that would support any kind of conspiracy claims about them.

          • ShawnN says:

            Listen, all you “debunkers” are doing is giving us information from the SOUCES THEY OWN!!! Of course they are going to say it’s silly, duh!! It’s you idiot non thinkers who eat that $**t up all day.

          • Noah Dillon says:

            Why would they share their secret information with you? If you had some sensitive secrets, would you publish them widely? Or would you not?

            Also you misspelled “sources.” Non-thinkers?

      • Scott smith says:

        Where did you get the notion that Central Banks are not privately owned? Is that not one of your main digressions and it’s based on what info?

      • notanidiot says:

        yes, will will trust your “debunk” when you belong to them 😀
        youre funny
        the proof all the quotes are true

      • Thanks Mike for an open play-out. Conspiracy theories emerge from the insecure subconscious.

        Bizarre sums like $ 500 Trillions were in any way ridiculous. But Rothschilds are themselves to blame for a blemish they spooned as stock market speculations, including Hedge Funds. Lazy money-spinning wheel, quo vadis?
        Opportunism and financial greed downed the Rothschild’s. The interest-based lending started about 500 years ago the moment Jews were excluded from any real estate ownership to cover the costs of lending money for their own survival which in my opinion is reasonably fair . However, this led centuries later to exaggerated dimensions. Bank of England, was, in colonial times run by the Rothschild’s. You simply cannot hoodwink the fact that it was the “white” Rothschild family that colonised and bled India with all conniving intrigues and not white British public.
        I suggest that Rothschilds distribute their “stolen” wealth in poor and kick up these economies in their own interests. The more you hoard your money, the less its value and stupid invest debacle, be it gold or silver.

        My proposal is that the Rothschilds disperse their wealth all around the Globe among the poor to sanitize and ensure their security for the long run.

        George Chakko, former U.N. correspondent, now retiree in Vienna, Austria.
        Vienna, 10/ 05 / 2017, 08:30 hrs CET

    • John Kirby says:

      The Rothschild family were the dominant source of investment capital in the 19th century. Anybody hoping to start a bank at that time went to the Rothschilds for capital. The Rothschilds took shares in these banks, becoming big shareholdes in most big banks. They did not sit on the boards of these banks but used proxies. Whatever we would like to know about the wealth of the Rothschilds is hidden under layers of ownership.

      The big banks are major shareholders in central banks such as the Fed, and in most big companies and land holdings. It is difficult to estimate what these very old shareholdings are worth, but it could be in trillions of dollars.

      The one thing I have against them is their role in the foundation of Israel, the theft of a country, and the subjugation of the Palestinians.

      • terry couch says:

        the only truth in all of this…thank you

      • Dan b says:

        I notice no response to this comment lol. If you add up every countries national debt I’m sure they would be more than $200tr plus all the private wealth left and physical assets so your first point is false. Also people aren’t racist against the Rothschilds because their Jewish, Jew isn’t a race. A central bank is not a government institution or entity or even controlled by national governments at all so your facts are wrong again. I’ve called the Bank of England and asked if they have shareholders which would make it a private corporation and they do, as do the federal reserve. Since I’ve heard the Rothschilds created the current fiat monetary system before the creation of the Bank of England one could hazard a guess that Rothschilds still sit at the top. As for the WWII comment about hitler being a Jew and therefore killing his own. American business men like Henry Ford and Prescott Bush bankrolled and provided industry for the nazis, that’s proven and why Prescott Bush had his assets frozen under the U.S. trading with the enemy’s act and the queen of Holland who owned Dutch Shell sold or gave the nazis the fuel to invade her own country and U.K. royalty were related to the nazis so the rich like the Rothschilds care not for morals. the 6million holocaust figure was a lie and the holocaust theory has been pulled apart by experts, David Irving can easily clear that up. I’ll probably be swept aside for mentioning his name but fact is fact and u can’t beat the truth. A pretty poor attempt at debunking the Rothschilds dynasty and your knowledge of the monetary system and history is also poor. If you would like more information just call the central bank and ask them or go to the archives. People like David Irving have spent years in them so I’ll listen to them to get the facts

      • Art says:

        You do realize of course that the land you call Palestine was originally inhabited by Jews. As a matter of fact, Jews have been inhabiting that land continuously for 3500 years. It was stolen from them by the Romans. How do you think all of the millions of Jewish artifacts got there? Who built the first and second temples, the Mexicans?

        • Levi says:

          Somewhat correct. Many Jews also lived peacefully in Palestine in 1947 before the pilaging and ethnic cleansing of non-jews was introduced by Israel….to continue to this day.

        • Allison says:

          The land inhabited by homo sapiens sapiens was originally populated by Neanderthals, chimpanzees and other apes. The land inhabited by US citizens was inhabited previously by American Indian peoples, whose tribes possibly fought over some parts of it for centuries. So what does that possibly imply about how to solve real world problems right now?

        • just me says:

          What a bollocks man!!!
          1. not Jews, that definition/name came out in Europe around 17th century. call them Hebrew -much more correct.
          2. you do not have a clue about history ! 3500 years ago, Hebrew or Hyksos (thats how they were called in Egypt) invaded land of Palestine – they DID NOT LIVE THERE, other people did
          Canaanites, Phoenicians – those were murdered by Hebrew and their desert god – Yahwe- read some books man,
          even in the biggest Xerox book ever – Bible(copy&paste from sewhere else and just put Hebrew names:) you will find that information.
          3. Current so called ‘Jews’ aren’t semites, they white caucasians, descendents from Khazaria empire, dispersed in Europe
          4. Jews are not a NATION, they are religious group same like Islamist, how religious group of white men from Europe can claim the land of other people ???
          5. there were 12 tribes, and 13th – khazarian one, mixing in all together in one is a mistake, Juda tribe (when the name came) is just one of them

          • Weatherwax says:

            The story that the Hebrews migrated out of Egypt is a myth. It never happened. They were just one more Canaanite group.

          • George L. Kovacs says:

            “Just me” Practically nothing in what you just wrote is true! Recent, 2012, genetic studies of European people, including surviving Jews of Europe, demonstrate that they, do not carry the genetic “signature” of the Western Turks that the Khazar tribe carried and have passed along to their descendants, the modern Kazakh and Turkmen people. The Jews of Europe retain the genetic signature of the Semitic people of the Eastern Mediterranean! The Khazars are not the “13th Tribe”! The Israelites, the people described in the Bible as lead by Moses to the “promised land” could not have “murdered” as many people as the Bible lauds. They would have been destroyed by the more numerous Canaanites because of their aggression and small numbers. The Israelites, whether they arrived from Egypt or otherwise, had to have traded and played with the varied Canaanite tribes to have existed from approximately 100BC to 750BC when the Assyrians disappeared the 10 Lost Tribes of Israel. The Canaanites would have not allowed them to have a history to read about now. And that said, there still isn’t any evidence of David or Soloman in the archeologic record in the middle east. Yes, Jews are a religion, but they are not a “white men from Europe, they are genetically Semites living in foreign lands who desire to return to their homeland! Start reading some other books yourself, you have represented practically every argument made against Jews by the very AntiSemitic “Christian Identity” cult of white supremacy.

      • Why am I reading the comments? says:

        [citation needed]

      • Zaf says:

        Rothschilds are not criticized for being jewish, but for being filthy rich…. same is the case of Rockefellers… and they are not jews…

    • Robert Gionis says:

      Rothschild is one of the oldest institutions operating in the London Money Market.
      Our treasury team is focused on providing bespoke deposit, foreign exchange and interest rate hedging services to private, corporate and institutional clients.
      In addition to our client services, we provide liquidity and interest rate risk management to the Rothschild Group. This includes the active management of a portfolio of highly liquid collateral including government securities and central bank deposits. https://www.rothschild.com/banking/treasury/

    • This thread is not going to die soon so that I’m bringing some gasoline to the fire. Four years ago i wrote an article: “Jacob Rothschild is guilty for the conspiracy against humankind” here http://www.sarovic.com/jacob_rothschild_is_guilty.htm

    • I says:

      These boys dont work, theyre worth trillions

  2. kelli says:

    Very informative, great article. I was always skeptical about what was said about the family. I knew a lot, both true and false about the “infamous” Rothschild family. There’s always going to be that conspiratorial connection to the name, whether any of it’s true or not. Success comes with critique, more success means more outlandish critique. But, every rumor has a little bit of truth, it’s just stretched a bit. Always keep in mind that some information is always kept secret, whether the family is connected with conspiracies or not. Pay attention to the source and whether they’ve done real research on the subject or not. Some sites just post their own view on it without anything to back it up and they’re completely biased one way. I’m not saying that your information is wrong, I’m just be careful where you get your information. Great job by the way, it’s always nice when someone looks up information on their family history. I enjoyed reading it.

  3. mduchek says:

    I used to listen to a radio show by a Mr Bruce Williams. He used to give business advice and such. I remember a few letters he read from a listener who was convinced Williams was part of the Jewish conspiracy, at least once even saying “I found Bruce Williams to be one of the most commonly used names by Jews in disguise.”

    So even a plain, white bread name doesn’t protect you from being accused of being part of the Jewish conspiracy :).

  4. Gustav says:

    Excellent attempt to debunk the conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds. I say ‘attempt’ as we know the anti-semetic conspiracy theorists will continue to misread and misinterpret history so they can continue to justify their hatred.

    Sorry you had to do this in the first place.

    Love all your posts — whatever the subject. Keep up the good work.

  5. Irritated Kalifornian says:

    It’s not his family.

  6. ask412 says:

    Interesting worldview and appreciated.

    Mike Rothschild wrote; “If you want to dispense racist, historically ignorant nonsense about wealthy Jews, you can hardly do better than Facebook.” Race is a dead meme kept alive by unevolved cultures. Craig Venter’s biological conclusion is that racism is based on ignorance and fear of difference by conservative thinkers*. They are purely a cultural construct, and a relic of older value sets.**

    But take the point about disinformation or propaganda.

    Appreciate the articles perspective and understand attempt at dispelling the Rothschild Banking conspiracy theory.

    Still the Rothschild’s families part in the forming of the North American Federal Reserve is a matter of history.

    The people may have changed, the names of executives, financiers and stakeholders of the system and tittles different. However the Federal Reserve System is still an integral part of a cartel run from Basel by the BIS, and part of the global central banking network. The worlds largest transnational corporate partnership in plain view with no accurate picture of the amount of capital under direct control. The wealthy on the planet use and are ‘friends with benefits’ of this cartel, leveraging their wealth and power discretely. This fact alone makes the articles premise about the Rothschild family unfalsifiable.

    Even if the scenario’s or historical versions in the article are real, the disinformation of conspiracy is designed to cloud our vision. Anyone scanning the anti-semitic^ rubbish on the internet is only fooled if their values are undeveloped.

    It is still interesting the value set at the centre of most major conflicts globally are over thousand years old^^.

    We need a paradigm shift in thinking away from the relics of agrian values. That is, if humans are going to evolve our culture to integrate with earths systems.

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    http://goo.gl/3Z5TRZ
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    ** http://goo.gl/rtmpNI
    ^ http://goo.gl/Xd5kN2
    ^^ http://goo.gl/URsncH

  7. heber says:

    Ok tx now the Rockefellers?How about their debunking?

  8. You really should dive somewhat deeper in european history, the Rothchild family and the Illuminati. Serious scientists have written many books on the subject. Nathan Rothchild and his scheme regarding the Battle of Waterloo, through which lying about the outcome he bought up the whole London stockmarket is particularly interesting. As for antisemitism we are now witness of how orthodox jews are treated in Israel. And you are right many european jews became christian of whatever branch and infiltrated everywhere. And whatever your surname, whatever your origin, we should all be worried about what everyone can see unfolding in this world and take suggestions of reducing worldpopulation with 95 %, Ted Turner, Bill Gates, Prince Philip and many others serious as we should take the ecocide of our planet serious.

    • Levi says:

      That’s where your wrong. No serious ‘scientist’ (WTF?), historian, journalist or anyone else of ‘serious’ academic merit has written a word on the ‘illuminati’ or the ridiculous Rothschild theory. What’s so sickening in all of this is that real conspiracies with factual substantiation are in abundance but you stone-headed idiots don’t seem to want to bother with actual facts. A good example, the best imho is clearly the state of Israel…..go and take a look at that rather than prattling on about bloody lizzard-people ffs.

      • George L. Kovacs says:

        Thank you Levi, that was the best reply to the “idiot wind” that keeps blowing through the hole in people heads!

      • That is because no serious ‘scientist’ (WTF?), historian, journalist or anyone else of ‘serious’ academic merit has access to the people thanks to the conspiracy of the Rothschilds.

  9. John Barleycorn says:

    “…… the era of the Rothschilds “controlling the world’s money supply” is long over. There are far more powerful banks around the world, controlling far greater sums of money.

    The very fabric of the claim is silly. A “central bank” is by definition not a privately owned institution, but a governmental mandate. It’s the entity responsible for overseeing monetary policy, interest rates and currency supply for a nation. Saying the current Rothschilds “own” the Bank of England is like saying Bill Gates owns the Federal Reserve. He doesn’t and they don’t.

    You OBVIOUSLY don’t know much about the history of this family and particularly the facts and history regarding central banks!!

    I suppose you think the “Federal” Reserve is actually somehow part of the federal government too don’t you?? How about Federal Express (FedEx) …are they part of the Federal government too??

    Did you know for instance that since the united States of America (the nation not the corporation by a nearly identical name formed in 1871) was founded, that we have switched back and forth 8 times between having a public (government controlled) central bank and a PRIVATE (privately owned and controlled) central bank. CHECK YOUR HISTORY MAN!!

    Also, if the “Federal” Reserve is a part of the Federal government, then “Federal” Reserve banks would be a “Federal building”. on federal land. So why, when you actually visit any “Federal” Reserve bank, is it posted “Private Property” ?? In fact the one in Dallas, TX is posted “NO TRESPASSING PRIVATE PROPERTY”.

    While we’re at it Mr. Rothschild, regarding your opening comment: “…racist, historically ignorant nonsense about wealthy Jews” You HAVE heard of a very very VERY well known historical document called Magna Carta, haven’t you? Over in the UK it’s kind of the equivalent to our US Constitution, but was actually drafted and sighed some 500 years earlier in 1215.

    The following are verbatim from chapters 10 and 11 of Magna Carta….. I WONDER what the problem was that inspired these words??

    10. If one who has borrowed from the Jews any sum, great or small, die before that loan be repaid, the debt shall not bear interest while the heir is under age, of whomsoever he may hold; and if the debt fall into our hands, we will not take anything except the principal sum contained in the bond.

    11. And if anyone die indebted to the Jews, his wife shall have her dower and pay nothing of that debt; and if any children of the deceased are left under age, necessaries shall be provided for them in keeping with the holding of the deceased; and out of the residue the debt shall be paid, reserving, however, service due to feudal lords; in like manner let it be done touching debts due to others than Jews.

    You can’t make the LONG established history of wealthy Jews and their usury based money lending disappear by calling people who reference it “racist, historically ignorant and foolish” I’m afraid you only make YOURSELF look foolish to anyone who actually knows history.

    • Gustav says:

      John Barleycorn

      You are the one who needs to re-read history. You have mixed up a number of ideas and notions without concern for facts.

      “You HAVE heard of a very very VERY well known historical document called Magna Carta, haven’t you? Over in the UK it’s kind of the equivalent to our US Constitution, but was actually drafted and sighed some 500 years earlier in 1215.” The Magna Carta is most definitely the equivalent of the US Constitution as you state and what was written in 1215 reveals the situation in the world in 1215 when Jews were the only money lenders around. Times have changed.

      You, John Barleycorn, “can’t make the LONG established history of wealthy Jews and their usury based money lending disappear by calling people who reference it “racist, historically ignorant and foolish” I’m afraid you only make YOURSELF look foolish to anyone who actually knows history.”

      In my first degree I majored in history, English and European, and fortunately I did not rely on te extremely biased and anti-semetic sources You seem to rely on for this comment.

      • Gustav says:

        The Magna Carta is most definitely the equivalent of the US Constitution as you state …

        Whoops, that should have read: The Magna Carta is most definitely NOT the equivalent of the US Constitution as you state.

        Sorry for not proofing properly.

      • tichard bittnet says:

        The author apparently has never heard of trust funds. Families who are passing substanial wealth over time do so in trust funds. Individual heirs receive personal piggy bank allotments but the bulk of the fortunes are controlled by trustees NOT Individual heirs.

    • Vere Nekoninda says:

      Everything surrounding the Magna Carta of 1215 is fascinating, including the question of who actually put the text together. It was written in Latin, the native language of none of the principles, and I often wonder how well the king and the barons understood the text that they were signing. In any case the word Jew appears in English translations, and that might be a significant indication of something concerning the times. Can we understand it correctly? The reference was removed in the next version of 1216, and also doesn’t appear in the next important Great Charter, that of Henry the Third in 1225. If one wishes to draw conclusions merely from the inclusion of the word “Jew” in the Magna Carta of 1215, then some explanation is needed for its absence in the versions which immediately followed.

      Jews were a recognized minority in that period of English history, with regulations, restrictions, and discriminations that applied specifically to them. Laws regulating Jewish activities ebbed and flowed after the Norman Conquest, but the general trend was toward ever-greater restrictions, until the Jews were banished from England in 1290. I see the mention of Jews in the 1215 Magna Carta as another in the series of steps that progressively removed their rights and privileges. The laws and events between 1066 and 1290 show that the Jews of this period were certainly not calling the shots or controlling the government. Indeed, they were completely unsuccessful in protecting even their own interests.

      • Gustav says:

        Good summary of the facts, Vere.

      • chris says:

        Another thing to note is that in the bad old days the Christians followed interpretations of Biblical dictates that Christians could not lend money and collect interest from other Christians, same for Jews and other Jews. They could not charge interest to their own kind, but could to outsiders. So, the Jews being a far greater minority had a much larger clientele for setting up loans and collecting interest.

        In other words all the Christians who now complain of the Jews running the banks have their own ancestors stupid dedication to rules in a book to thank for the situation… It might also be another reason why the Magna Carta from that era contained excerpts regarding rules about borrowing from Jews.

    • Rob says:

      Obviously you don’t know much about English history.

      A huge sum was borrowed from Jewish money lenders (bankers these days) at a reasonable interest rate, but later it was decided to be a good idea to whip up some anti Jewish sentiment and refuse to pay anything back (even the principle amount)

      I know for sure that there was one massacre of Jewish men women and children in York (the site is marked)

      It was European antisemitism that forced Jews to become bankers in the first place as they where not permitted to be come merchants or tradesmen.

      I suggest you start reading again

      • Rob says:

        I was referring to John Barleycorn btw

      • bluecat says:

        It happened earliest in Norwich, England, with the invention of “St William of Norwich”.

        Purely by coincidence the anti-Jewish pogroms in Norwich came just at the time that the Bishop was faced with repaying them the large sums of money his predecessor had extorted from their predecessors to build the cathedral.

    • SNOOT says:

      John:

      The Magna Carta is not the same or even nearly the same as the US constitution. You’ll note the replies of some of the other people here, especially Vere and Gustav. You might also note that lots of public, federal buildings do not allow anyone to wander around uninvited: military bases, the Pentagon, restricted national parks areas, proving grounds, parts of legislative buildings, the Supreme Court, etc. You can tour Federal Reserve banks. They won’t eat you or enslave you.

      The Federal Reserve was established by the government. It’s officers are appointed and confirmed by the government, it serves the government. Its policy decisions do not have to be approved by Congress or the president, but its governors do. Almost all of its profits go directly to the government. It is a federal institution.

      All this stuff is from Wikipedia, and a lot of it is cited. You can find it in any decent public source. Take that as you like, but these are facts. It is certainly far more federal than FedEx, which is a corny and silly comparison/slogan. That’s like asking if Chinese finger traps are as Chinese as Chairman Mao. The name just doesn’t tell you very much about the problem and the question is totally misleading.

      Most of the rest of your comment is just nonsense.

      • This is a general claim and not directed directly at you. Please stop the ignorance! Despite great strides during the last couple of decades, there is still an abundance of misinformation, and too often purposeful disinformation, being proliferated through the press and Internet damaging current efforts of positive change for the human race. Of course, since only 6 monolithic holding companies now control over 90% of what we read, hear and watch, we are evermore dependent on independent yet reputable sources for the truth. This encompasses a good portion of my company’s new mission, currently being restructured.

        More progress, than most can fathom, is being made right now…more than the entire previous century, during which the pendulum was forceably swung in great favor of the former industrialists, international financiers, central banking cartels, corporatist and globalists (The World Money Powers) aided by their money monopoly organizations (such as the BIS, IMF, and World bank) with a stranglehold on global economies, monetary systems, governments and the very fabric of our societal matrices.

        Together, though, we are more powerful than they can ever be, by sheer numbers and resolve. We can reverse the damage and attempts to strip humanity of its minimal remaining protections, and at times even our bare essentials of live, liberty and pursuit of happiness. But, it will take all our efforts and we are only beginning the process of this paradigm shift to regain control of our lives and livelihoods to leave a legacy of abundance, prosperity and freedom for generations to come rather than the future horror we’re headed towards if we sit back on complacency and fear.

        Information has never been more powerful and we must now collectively use it for our benefit educating others, using the wisdom of previous generations, understanding the truths about our history (our only markers or indicators of the future) and take needed action to benefit the 99.9% of humanity for the long-term, moving mankind away from the direction of servitude and ignorance to preserve our natural right to be free and responsible citizens…before it’s too late.

        The Technological Age can be either a blessing or a curse, based on our choices and actions from here. Complacency and ignorance will only allow the Money Powers to turn it against us.

        Now, to the topic. To assume because other government facilities are restricted, that is was established by the government, that it’s more Federal than FedEx, etc. that this proves The Fed is a federal institution is wrong on so many levels, both logically and based on reason. Using Wikipedia doesn’t validate it either.

        The fact is, The Fed is not organized within the Executive, Legislative or Judicial branches of our government. Employees are not part of the US Civil Service System, covered by government employees health insurance or pension programs. The Fed gets no Federal funding and instead the primary source of the Fed’s profits is from its own specially privileged operations and interest lending our own money buying and selling Treasuries and mortgage bonds currently at a rate of $75 Billion every month.

        Granted, most of the interest is paid back, a long-standing provision that has become a lot more lucrative in recent years, because the money is transferred at regular intervals throughout the year. This is similar to the IRS using billions of US Taxpayers money throughout the year, every year, prior to tax refund time. The Fed’s ability to profit from thin-air, nonetheless, is a result of its very unique business model, simply paying for securities by creating money.

        And, that’s NOT the worst of it. The Fed was formed by the Federal Reserve Act in 1913 for the primary purpose of stability of the USD, banks, markets and economy through keeping an eye on the banking industry (like having the fox guard the chicken coop) and manipulation of the money supply and short-term interest rates to name a couple very powerful financial tools that impact everything from the economy, inflation, US debt load to stock market prices, etc.

        Yet, never in our history has there been more turmoil, fraud, crisis and crashes than the last 100 years. During which time, we’ve seen the systematic destruction of the USD by over 96% and the current dismantling of the American Middle Classes, the 99%. We can currently boost 76% of the American Adult population with zero savings and over half the country on some form of government welfare. I know what you’re thinking. This is not all the Feds fault and I agree, but the corporatist and globalists never promised to “provide the nation with a safe, flexible, and stable monetary and financial system.”

        So, the Fed is certainly in no shape or form a government agency or institution, and those that continue to report as such are like the blind leading the blind off of a financial cliff.

        Finally, while some important elements of proper auditing have taken place, there has not yet been a comprehensive independent audit, by the Government Accountability Office as proposed in recent years by several members of Congress. NOT ONE. It has, however, been reported that they did hand out nearly $16 TRILLION in US Taxpayer money in bail-outs, following the last financial crash, to the worlds largest and most powerful corporations and banks. Yes, many foreign interest majority owned corporations as well. How much have we gotten back? Your guess is as good as mine. We may never know without a full and complete audit, that no one deems very important at this time it seems.

        And of course, if you’re still skeptical there’s this…”Examining the organization and function of the Federal Reserve Banks, and applying the relevant factors, we conclude that the Reserve Banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of the FTCA, but are independent, privately-owned and locally controlled corporations.” [Lewis vs. U.S., 680 F. 2d 1239, 1241]

        • Noah Dillon says:

          Yeah, I’m still skeptical: most of your claims are grossly inaccurate and don’t have anything to do with the topic of this post, some of them aren’t even claims but just allusions and broad, vague declarations. You don’t seem to know how the Federal Reserve works, the history of fiat currency (which goes back hundreds, possibly thousands, of years), the difference between the past 14 years and the history of financial crises prior to national banking (both in the US and in the rest of the developed world), or the difference between today and the rest of human history. There are deep structural inequities and state violence, but, uh… focusing on the US central bank as the root of those problems is just plain silly and misdirected.

          If you’re worried about corporate consolidation and monopoly powers, work at rectifying that—the Fed has nothing to do with it. If you’re worried about the influence of money on power, then work at changing that problem—the Fed’s governors and their salaries being designated and overseen by Congress doesn’t have anything to do with that problem either. If you’re upset about apathy and citizen alienation, work at that—the Fed has nothing to do with it. Global warming and some other technological issues are far, far, far, far, far, far, far bigger problems than any central bank.

          Also: I’m not a lawyer, so I might be getting this wrong, but as far as I can tell you should double check the conclusions you’re drawing from that final quote. The Fed is a public-private partnership and that quote is narrowly tailored to address the Fed’s responsibility in torts. It says that the plaintiff (John Lewis, who was in an accident with a a Federal Reserve-owned vehicle) can’t sue the Fed for damages as a federal agency. It says the Federal Tort Claims Act is limited to cases involving these kinds of organizations: “the executive departments, the military departments, independent establishments of the United States, and corporations acting primarily as instrumentalities of the United States, but does not include any contractors with the United States.” You’ll notice that doesn’t include many other public-private partnerships, congress or its institutions, the Supreme Court, and a lot of other organizations. So, as you should be able to see, this doesn’t mean that the Fed’s not part of the government, just that you can’t sue it for damages as an agency of the executive branch.

          You can check my work here:
          http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/680/1239/200393/

        • Adolph says:

          I’m glad I found this site, much of the comments support what I have had to find out myself through the years. The Fed is definitely a private organization. Ask your friend who the members are…I believe when people have money, they want to make sure the government looks out for their interests. The challenge is human nature and conflicting ideologies. Run away power is scary, and it seems we have this possibility in the making. Nothing levels the playing board better than war, or natural disasters. I’m trying to say allot in a little space. I see the greater challenge is to help the less fortunate, and those of wealth and power do not focus their interests enough on this.

        • Jack says:

          12 stock market crashes from 1792 thru 1909 most of them multi year events. … Only 11 from 1913 thru 2011 and several of them were one to three day market corrections, for example the dot com bubble.
          If you intend to state opinion as fact, please verify your facts before posting

          • Adolph says:

            What’s with the opinion vs fact BS? This whole blog is opinion and fact intermixed. There are those who stare at the facts and say they are lies. We are sharing information here. I have studied history and evolution. I believe mankind’s behavior follows patterns and trends. I do not think the world is only 6000 years old, but that’s my opinion!

        • Adolph says:

          One cannot accuse the wealthy of conspiracy, despite the fact they have the resources. Throughout history money flows with the same pattern. This pattern is not a conspiracy, it is the way the human race handles wealth and power. The rich get richer, money trickles up. Greed becomes a problem. The rich want to protect their money, they establish methods. Through out the process, there are those who want to take short cuts as well as those who will steal if they can. The equation has been simplified as the search for Utopia. For the rich to give back on their own free will is the ideal, but this also lends itself to self interest giving. To tax the rich also has it’s deviation because the rich have the most influence on the government. We are digging deep with this blog. As we enjoy our society there are other systems in the world developing that want to dominate ours.

          • Charles says:

            “This pattern is not a conspiracy, it is the way the human race handles wealth and power. The rich get richer, money trickles up.”

            Ha ha . . . interest rates and tax rates do in fact cause this pattern to repeat over and over. Policy makers are paid to set these rates and only one class of citizen benefits from such policies and practices. Don’t be so naive as to think it’s just a natural phenomenon.

      • pauliethadon says:

        The Federal Reserve is privately owned by forien banks. Which is clearly stated on Wikipedia.

        • Assuming that wikipedia is a viable source for info. The federal reserve is a law enacted by congress not a bank. It has many aspects including a federal reserve which is held in banks. not sure what you mean by that statement?

      • Adolph says:

        The Federal Reserve was not established by the government. It was established by the private people who control the government. Check out the book “The Creature from Jekyll Island” for more insights.

        • Rob says:

          sorry but are you serious that you would consider anything from Edward Griffin.

          According to him HIV doesn’t exist, AIDS is caused by anti retrovirus (so account for the millions who have aids and never used any retrovirals) and that Noahs arc is in Turkey.

          You would be better asking my cat for accurate information

        • Lucifer says:

          Q:Who has right for printing Dollars?
          A:Rothschilds
          Q:What is the famous quote of mayer a.rothschild?
          A:”Give me control of a nation’s money and i care not who makes its laws”
          Q: So does it mean anything that if the building they print dollars is private or public owned?
          A:No

          • Noah Dillon says:

            Both of those things are silly myths promoted by cranks on the Internet, but they don’t have any factual basis, so no, none of that means anything. The Mint prints dollars, not the Rothschilds, who live in France, not the US. The first time anyone ever claimed he made that quote was in 1935, with no source given. No source in any historical record has ever been found for that quote, and it is sometimes attributed to him as being said several years or even decades after he died. It’s totally bogus.

      • cary says:

        just reading this a year late christ I wirked for 4 yrs in the Federal reserve and I am sorry to tell you but the name federal is only there to decieve. it is privately owned

        • Noah Dillon says:

          Then why are its officers appointed by the president and approved by Congress? What were you doing there that you don’t know this stuff? Which branch did you work at? Mail room, amirite?

    • Dave says:

      They put that crap in the Magna Carta because they were bigoted a-holes like you

      • Noah Dillon says:

        This is completely incomprehensible and doesn’t give any source. Is that David Boies? When is this from? What court is this from? What is the legal issue being prosecuted? Is it a tort or what?

        It doesn’t seem to indicate that the Federal Reserve isn’t overseen by the government—it is. It’s basically a public/private partnership and is held accountable by different bodies in different ways at different times because of that. Hence congress needs to approve its governors, etc. Also, it’s not just one bank. It’s a system of several different banks around the country. They’re semi-autonomous. The New York Fed is not exactly the same as the one in Philadelphia or Dallas or Kansas City or whatever.

        But also, what does any of that have to do with the Rothschild family?

    • Bilbo says:

      Are you regurgitating internet memes, or are you betraying your position of confidence within the Federal Reserve?

    • George L. Kovacs says:

      To be included in your Facts J.B., the English had 12,000 Jews killed in the late 14th Century, after the peasants accused the Jews of bringing the plague to England. This occurred less than 100 years after the Magna Carta, antisemitism has been a staple of English heritage from the beginning. You look pretty foolish to me, and yes, gov’er, I know my History!

    • Jimmy Cracked Corn says:

      I suppose that military installations are not government institutions because they have no trespassing signs

  10. acidplasticine says:

    “that has far more to do with their oppressive and aggressive regimes suppressing human rights and provoking confrontations with the rest of the world” – iran did not invade a country since 200 years. usa has military bases all around it and attacks countries all around it that are not allied with them. afghanistan, iraq, syria.. ofcoz all countries that do not support petrodollar were attacked too. iran is a gateway to china and world monopoly, world government. that is obvious to me. we may not know who owns fed but we know who doesnt and we know ofcoz about fiat. then if not rothschilds, rockefellers, morgans.. did not create a monster on jekyll island that made the world order as it is today then who? aliens? who owns central banks? where does the missing money go?

    • SNOOT says:

      I don’t know what missing money you’re referring to.

      As is pointed out in the essay, no one owns a central bank. Central banks are institutions that are organized and overseen by governments. You’ll note that our central bank is decentralized, with branches in several states, each with a semi-independent governor, and all of them with officers appointed and approved by the federal government, not by private individuals. They run our monetary policy and private banks are dependent on the interest rates they set.

      We’re not really at war with Iran, though the military and intelligence complex has done a lot to disrupt their ability to obtain nuclear power and possibly a nuclear weapon. It’s a country ruled by oppressive theocrats. It threatens its neighbors and supports sectarian terrorist groups. I don’t think it’s wise to go to war with them (or anyone), but there’s also no good reason to defend that state. It’s certainly not the “gateway to China,” whatever that means. China is one of our biggest trade partners. Iran is not. We have alliances and/or bases in Japan, South Korea, India, Pakistan, Taiwan, and Thailand (among others) from which we could launch a ground invasion of China, not to mention missiles capable of reaching it. Nobody would be interested in that war. Even if it were totally contained to just mainland China and just the lower 48 states, it would probably be completely ruinous to the entire world’s economy. We couldn’t have world government or monopoly power if we wanted. The world doesn’t work that way, and it is far less like that than it was 25 years ago.

      We haven’t really interfered much in Syria. We’ve sent the Syrian rebels some advisors, probably from the military or intelligence community. A lot of people are being slaughtered by their oppressive government there right now. We’ve previously had agreements with that same oppressive government to torture insurgents we didn’t want to deal with. The reasons for conflict in Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq have absolutely nothing to do with the “petrodollar.” You can know this because Syria and Afghanistan don’t really have oil reserves and Iraq was selling oil to the world almost until it was invaded. What it was doing with the money obtained from oil sales was illegal under the sanctions set up by the UN Oil for Food program. It wasn’t providing food to Iraqis; it was enriching Saddam Hussein’s family.

      Fiat currency has been around for at least several hundred years. We know it goes back at least to China in the 11th century. It’s really nothing to be scared of. It hasn’t been used to control the world yet and never will. It’s no sign that anyone named Morgan, Rothschild, or Rockefeller owns the government. Much of the world is not so dynastic as it once was.

      Why are you defending dictators and thugs? Can you defend them or criticize US policy without resorting to nonsense claims? Aren’t there a lot of other real, actual reasons to be critical of the US and its wars? There certainly are. There are a lot of things that you could spend your time and energy agitating about that are real threats to the happiness and livelihood of real people. Central bankers are not one of those threats.

    • Jack says:

      There is no missing money, you just haven’t payed your 2017 taxes yet. …

    • Lolrenzo Poe says:

      Where does the missing money go? Same place my socks from the dryer go.

  11. SNOOT says:

    The perpetual war on Iceland is bankrupting the US.

  12. David says:

    Very interesting and informative discussion. For the record, I recently came across this item pertaining to Lord Rothschild:

    On June 4, 2009, the Israeli daily Ha’aretz published an editorial by Knesset member Shulamit Aloni in which she quotes a letter written by Lord Rothschild in 1902, which he sent to Theodor Herzl, founder of political Zionism. Rothschild explained why he could not support a Jewish state in Palestine. He wrote that he “should view with horror the establishment of a Jewish colony pure and simple; such a colony would be Imperium Imperio; it would be a Ghetto with the prejudice of the Ghetto; it would be a small petty Jewish state, orthodox and illiberal, excluding the Gentile and the Christian.”

    • Marc says:

      And yet, the Balfour Declaration (1917) was addressed to Lord Rothschild, supposedly because Woodrow Wilson was a puppet of the Zionists, who they leveraged to get America involved in WW1 (Germany would have won otherwise). And the Jewish State in Palestine was the reward to the Rothschilds from the British Government.

      Woodrow Wilson was also the US President who brought in the Federal Reserve Act (which created the FED) as well as the Revenue Act (which brought about income tax, just in time for America to get heavily into debt as a result of WW1). The income tax is used to pay off the interest on that debt, to the FED. Or so the story goes.

  13. Torchwood says:

    As an anthropologist I am aware that the Jews were everybody’s banker because they were virtually the only people across the greater part of Europe who could do readin’, writin’, & ‘rithmatic at the time. The jewish bankers and scholars supported the economies of many countries.

    Now practically everybody can do readin’, writin’, and ‘rithmatic and use open written forums to vilify the descendents of those bankers and scholars.

    No good deed goes unpunished.

    • Rob says:

      It wasn’t because they where the only ones who where literate and numerate (unlike the current crop of bankers and yes I have worked in banks) it was because it was the only livelihood they where intermittent to have due to laws passed right across Europe.

      Other than the loan business (and later bills of exchange) they could only provide services to their own community.

      As nobody enjoys paying their debts and people from an insular community (not through choice) they where destined to be blamed for everything.

    • Noidea says:

      Wasn’t it also because Christianity prohibited money lending with interest (called usury at the time)? But jews were able to charge interest to non-jews ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury – unsure if this played a part or at what point.

  14. Atan Levi says:

    “Also, while it’s true that the US seems to have perpetual conflict with many of these countries, that has far more to do with their oppressive and aggressive regimes suppressing human rights and provoking confrontations with the rest of the world.” Funny, some people would say that the U.S. doesn’t care about ‘oppressive and aggressive regimes suppressing human rights and provoking confrontations with the rest of the world’ as long as they play along with Washington.

    • SNOOT says:

      Eh… That’s sort of true. It’s a kind of severely, pejoratively simplified description of our history. It certainly doesn’t represent all American policy, throughout all time, or without certain significant caveats. It doesn’t represent the views of most Americans with regard to the actions and policies of their government.

      It also has little to do with the Rothschild family or the discussion here, except for the aforementioned erroneous Facebook meme that includes Hungary, Venezuela, China, and Iceland–countries we’ve never been at war with or that we haven’t been at war with in a long time or that don’t have autocratic governments.

  15. Stephen Jones says:

    It’s fun to watch the conspiracy theorists start circling when their favorite beliefs are questioned.

  16. Heidi says:

    Your information is misleading and false. Johann Georg Hiedler or Huttler (with an umlaut) was born in 1792 and died in 1857 he was married to Maria Anna Schicklgruber born 1795-1847 and was the Father of Alois Schicklgruber who was married to Klara Potzl the parents of Adolf Hitler and his siblings (yes there are more of the Hitlers out there). If Hiedler bothered to marry Maria Schicklgruber then it would not have been kept “secret”. Your theory is way off….maybe you really are related to the Rothschilds who made up the name so how did it get into main stream linage if not related?

  17. Rinon says:

    Everyone talking about Jewish this and Christian that is missing the point. It’s not about whether these scum are Jewish or Catholic or Buddhist and it’s not about their race either (yes Jewish is a religion not a race). It’s about the fact that they are stealing from the world and making ludicrous amounts of money for doing nothing. FIAT money is the biggest fraud in history and yet those of us who are born into this fraudulent system are expected to just shutup about it and deal with it. I for one am sick and tired of requiring a false, worthless piece of plastic for basic survival needs. Lending out deposit receipts that have no gold backing is fraudulent. This is the basis of bank notes and FIAT currency. As convenient as it is to carry notes instead of gold, the bankers lending out notes without gold deposits are criminals. Letting them continue is also criminal. Closing your eyes to the crime is paramount to being an accomplice. But defending their behaviour and distorting the facts to confuse people? That’s even worse in my opinion.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      NOPE. “Jewish” is a religion and an ethnicity. Race is a myth.

      And fiat currency and credit both have long histories outside of the current economies of the world—like thousands-of-year-long history. Besides that, no one requires you to use currency to survive. There are lots of people, both urban and rural, who use no money at all.

      Furthermore, why is gold any better than paper? Gold has no intrinsic value: you can’t eat it, can’t use it for shelter, can’t move it or obtain it easily, and its value is totally based on speculation. In earlier nations that used gold as a medium of exchange, gold was typically used at a value other than that of its bullion value. If you had an ounce of gold stamped by a king and an ounce of gold without the stamp, the one stamped by the king was valued higher. Basically gold was also a fake currency. And it sounds like a crappy currency since it’s tied to the control of finite resources by whoever has more power to dig it out of the ground. Think of the Spanish empire: they brought back a ton of gold from the New World and totally crashed their economy by devaluing their money. A lot of that gold ended up going east to China, where monks collected it as tribute from the peasants and used it to gild statues of the Buddha. There were shortages of money because it was all ending up as decoration. During that era the Chinese returned to the use of paper vouchers based on credit rather than metal.

      If you want something more tangible than a promissory note, why wouldn’t you use food instead of gold. Having a gold-backed currency is not only foolish but dangerous, which history has shown repeatedly for at least a few hundred years. Why is paper money “fraudulent” or “criminal”? What crime is being committed and who is being defrauded? We’ve actually returned to a model that predates the gold standard and is much more stable.

      I just read a fascinating book about the history and anthropology of money and debt: David Graeber’s “Debt: The First 5,000 Years.” It upends a lot of the nonsense you just spouted because it’s based on actual evidence and not just ideological conjecture. Check it out!

      Anyway, none of your comment has anything to do with the Rothschild family, probably because they’re not in any way in control of paper money and modern banking except in the minds of paranoid conspiracy-mongers.

      • Curious says:

        Name one fiat system that has survived? A well managed Gold Standard is beneficial for a society. It can’t be devalued like our dollar currency. Our dollars can be printed as many times as they want. Gold cannot. Gold cannot rot. Gold is valuable because it is rare. It never erodes. That is besides the point. Gold is more valuable than any currency in a fiat system because Gold is actually real in the sense that it cannot be reproduced or valued differently, unless of course you mix it with another metal.

        Very curious to your answer by the way. What I know about gold and the history of currencies is that a fiat system is not stable. It is viable in small proportions, but not for an entire country, or the global economy. Bartering in ancient civilizations was replaced with a Gold Standard economy. Since it was not well managed during war, in Athens, its value was greatly reduced because the supply was running low and the government created more currency by mixing the existing gold with copper. Our U.S. history within the last 70 years is a good example of the fact that a fiat system, and even the Federal Reserve, doesn’t work. Since the Federal Reserve was created in 1913, the purchasing power of the dollar has reduced by about 95%. If you can present facts to change my mind, I’ll gladly do it.

        • alwalad says:

          I suspect that given the basket of goods available in 1913 and now, your comment is entirely fatuous.

    • Nemesis says:

      @Rinon Right! Money must be based on labour on the contribution to a living ande just society of men!
      Only is there is not enough work (well create it!~) or you are sick of old you’ll get a normal contribution or base of money, pension etc. you need to live~.
      All the other is stealing, parasiting on others.

  18. Trab Matic says:

    Forget the theories in the end we are fighting wikedness in high places rather the theories are true or not of this family that still have a grip on the worlds economy

    • SNOOT says:

      Your comment is contradictory . You’re saying we ought to ignore conspiracy theories but you’re also promoting conspiracy theories: that “we are fighting [wickedness] in high places” and that “this family has a grip on the [world’s] economy.” I don’t know what you mean by wickedness, since I don’t believe in wickedness. It’s a loaded, moralizing term with religious overtones. And there’s no evidence that the Rothschilds have any influence on any economy.

  19. Peter says:

    Please use your brain when discussing “RACE” and “CREED”, as there is a distinct difference. You cannot be racist to a religion. Religion is a belief in an afterlife/god/gods, race is a persons ethnicity, GENETICS! You can’t be genetically Jewish. Judaism is one (of many) belief in God. Thus the reason that the term “anti-semitic” was invented in the first place, as it NOT being a “RACE/ETHNICITY”, it had to have it’s own terminology created to single out the discrimination. Now moving on, Jacob Rothschild is not Jewish, he’s a Zionist, and I say this, because one cannot be Jewish if they believe in the creation of a Jewish state (the construct of Israel) as the contsruction of any land for a home for the Jewish people contradicts the teaching within the Torah, and therefore you cannot be Jewish if you go against the what the religion states. Contrary to what people believe Zionism and Judaism are not one and the same. Zionism is a political movement, Judaism is a religious belief, but they cotradict each other to such the extent that anyone that follows Zionism cannot be Jewish. My point here is that “The Rothschild family” have ties to this based in the Balfour declaration and what they own within Israel (and this is fact). So you can’t be anti-semitic to someone who isn’t Jewish, whether they are wealthy, or not.
    It’s called proof reading, find someone to do that for you, the next time you decide to spout out garbage like this.

    • deminthon says:

      ” You can’t be genetically Jewish.”

      How odd, then, that I am genetically Jewish.

      • Peter says:

        You wouldn’t be genetically jewish, you’d be genetically Hebrew, and now to the final point… Prove it. I sincerly doubt that you can considering that would mean you have a four-thousand year old family tree. With records, and proof of birth (which, would be for lack of better words, f***ing impossible). Next!

        • Actually to prove a genetic line from the Israel tribes you would have to have a comparative genetic sample from that era which has proven to have been part of the historical group. Otherwise your arguing English language semantics Hebrew verses Jewish. Colloquially Jewish has been framed to a heritage and not just a religion. Colloquial adaptations of a language although technically false are an accepted foible of the English language. EG: online is commonly understood to be on the internet yet the word has another technical meaning or band-aid meaning all self adhesive bandages not just the brand name.

          • Vere Nekoninda says:

            While I suspect that Stephen and I have similar views on the genetics and linguistics of this issue, I think we have more useful lineage data than has been mentioned so far. We don’t have flawless written records extending back several millennia, nor lots of good genetic samples from that era, but much can be learned from DNA testing of living people. A fair amount of testing has been done, and it shows that many people who call themselves “Jewish” share genetic markers and distinctions in ways that support the idea of a common historical, reproductive lineage, somewhat distinct from other groups. It is logical that the genetic similarities stem from common cultural and religious community, in this case. Obviously, there was mixing/intermarriage between groups before and after Old Testament times, but the genetic testing that I have read about supports the idea of a fairly consistent reproductive lineage across several thousand years. This applies to people who call themselves Jews, and to several other cultural groups, for which testing has been done.

            Some of Peter’s assertions are incorrect. We do have valid data on some of these questions, and “proof” is no more impossible on this point than on most other questions of history and human populations. It’s not easy, and it’s not absolute, but we know a fair amount, which is valuable.

          • Peter says:

            Oh Stephen, Stephen Stephen Stephen. Really? You talking about Semantics? Really? No Stephen, just no. Your loose brained ramblings are so irrelevant that they truly do not dignify a response. However, Vere, your comments have actually drawn an interesting question, that I think you find that you are actually deluded, but I will respond to in this thread, as it would not allow me to respond to yours and I will also clear up one point of Stephen’s out of courtesy.
            Stephen and Vere, historical grouping genetics can be put in to place by one thing and very simply. You are talking about a region of the middle east and sharing genetics within it, funny that you share the same genetic coding with people from the same region (note sarcasm), considering that you also share the same genetic coding of those of the first know human remains found in Ethiopia and we ALL share this genetic coding. Hmmmmm, strange that, I wonder what that could mean? Now that’s proof that we are all interlinked within the same genetic string and in actuality there is no such thing as race, as we are all seperate shades of the same genetic lineage (Homo sapiens). However, putting aside this simple fact that people seem to choose to ignore, you are talking about an inconsitency that you cannot prove. The statement of shared genetic groupings is a incosistent and is actually a global grouping within genetics and variants based on mutations of human evolution. For example: A child can be born that hows no genetic familiarity of its parents in anyway (this is a known fact). it still does not change the fact that that child was born of those parents. How does this happen? Simple, because of the dilution of genetics within our biological make up, skipping generations and genetic selection/evolution.
            Now, do you really want to continue discussing something you have no proof of, or would you rather stop now, before you dig a bigger hole than you already have?

            P.S: Without genetic proof, you have no arguement, on top of that, if people chose and became Jews in the first place (which was a relegion), then are you telling me they were born Jewish, before they converted to it? Please, don’t waste my time with you chicken/egg theories, your wasting my time. go do some research, beofre spouting out such nonsense.

            Peace and good luck on your future endeavours. 🙂

          • I am eternally amused by commentators who first insult when no insult is given followed by peace and love with a smiley face at the end. I assume you understand that you are giving the same gross characterizations and similar loose language based distinctions of your previous objection. You choose to define the Jewish as having a strict religious meaning. Again based upon your assumption of a strict definition in a moderns language translation. What is a race? What is a spoon for that matter? As far as the genetics of any tribe or group you can serial trace linage based upon the following specific tests. CODOMINANT ALLELES, HARDY-WEINBERG EQUILIBRIUM, RECURRENT MUTATION, SELECTION AGAINST THE RECESSIVE PHENOTYPE, and X-LINKED to name a few. Just because you don’t understand population genetics and have a superficial knowledge of anthropology does not make your pronouncements true.

          • Jalal says:

            If we agree that the Jews are a race will all those whom agree this also agree that Palestine is a state?

            Also would we agree to base this on the 1967 borders?

          • Rob Crawford says:

            That is a bit like saying, if chicken have feathers then the Icelandic invented butyl rubber

        • deminthon says:

          Prove you’re not a moron.

          • Peter says:

            Oh wow, you’re still going. O.K. Time for science school 101 (oh and Demi, I’m not gonna dignify that with a response, if you were directing that at me, because that statement is so stupidly crass, I honestly can’t be bothered to waste my time with it).
            Judaism began about 4000 years ago (according to your so called historical record of the Torah – correct? We won’t go into the fact that your “book” was doctored by the Babylonians, so therefore its record cannot be truly taken at face value, as well as the fact that it’s a book, written by men, for men, with no proof that any of it is even true – as that would be like me saying I believe in the ancient Greek scribing of the Gods of Olympus, or the Hindu Gods etc and that they are real, because they said they were. Or even taking any historical event at face value from the people that did it, again without proof, as the record could be written as an ego project – to quote Orwell “the winners of war write history”). In this it states that Abraham came and spread the word of God and the people embraced the faith (converted).
            The first know human remains (actual physical proof lineage) found are over 2.8 million years old, which we all share the same genetic coding of. So are you telling me that 2,796,000 years ago, a new “race” emerged that was the Jewish people? Please. That’s hogwash. To quote Charles Loring Brace (a leading anthropologist):
            “it is perfectly true that the long-term residents of the various parts of the world have patterns of features that we can easily identify as characteristic of the areas from which they come. It should be added that they have to have resided in those places for a couple of hundred thousand years before their regional patterns became established” as well as stating “There is no such thing as a biological entity that warrants the term ‘race'”, and he is correct.
            You may share characteristics within your regional grouping, but that does not make you a separate “race” from the rest of the world. If anything it makes you a family, which adopts others into it (to add diversity).
            However, this raises an interesting question. 4000 years and a couple of hundred thousand years are clearly a larger separation of time. Also, it is note worthy to state, that in your own “historical text” it states that you only resided in the area believed to be “Israel” for about 2000 years, before being expelled by God. So, where are these groupings likely to have come from? Well considering that the oldest known lineage trace of human existence are from Africa, which these ancestral groupings of humans branched out into the know world, it is likely that this is where you’ll find your genetic grouping from.
            Your so called race, is not a race. it is a family collective, based on the rules of tracing the Mother as Jewish. The same could be said for any family tree, following the mother (especially if we compared a family of practicing Russian Orthodox mothers lineage). It doesn’t change the fact that there is no such thing as biological race.
            Your family is one of the same creed, one led by faith, not race. I’m sorry to tell you, but your theories are misguided and not well enough researched to debate this.

            NOTE: The peace and good luck in your future endeavours was meant sarcastically, although I assume you have grasped this by now, considering this was your scientific schooling session. Should you wish for me to school you some more on this subject, please feel free to respond and I will endeavour to be less sarcastic, the less idiotic your statements are.

            I look forward to your request (if you make one) and “peace and good luck on your future endeavours” 🙂

          • deminthon says:

            “Peter” = moronic garbage

          • Peter says:

            Demi, your response is like a dwarf with learning difficulties, it’s not big and it’s not clever. My heart goes out to your parents that must accept the burden of having to raise a child of such inferior value to the human existence. It would seem that human evolution skipped your birth. Is there a charity that I can donate to, so to help you on your journey to meet the wizard and obtain the brain you so rightly require?
            I would say peace and good luck on your future endeavours, but you probably wouldn’t understand, in truth, you’re probably having to run this past your speak and spell to understand the majority of the words I type. So I’ll just leave it here by saying “Who’s a good boy? You’re a good boy Demi, a gooooooood, gooooood boy, Yes you are, Yeees you Aaaaare”. PAGLOYFE 🙂

  20. Gypsy Dark says:

    Much of the “debunking” done here offers no sources at all. Most sources that are offered are not all that credible. I particularly like the astute scientific assertion, “They really don’t.” The fact that this article is written by someone with the last name “Rothschild”… I don’t know what to make of that. I don’t believe in coincidence, that’s for sure. In the end, as a skeptic myself, there is just not enough verifiable info here for me. The fact that the very first sentence calls everyone racist for picking on wealthy Jews speaks VOLUMES. I shouldn’t have bothered to keep reading.

    • Other than all the sources I quoted and linked to, you’re right. No sources at all.

    • Rob says:

      Considering the conspiracy claims about the current Rothschild family have no credible (or usually sane) sources but you appear to subscribe to them I suspect that you wouldn’t recognise credible information.

      I also suspect that you misunderstand the term skeptic

      • John says:

        Who owns Google? Seems to me that events cannot be predicted no matter how well things can be planned, the players do change. And have their own unique agenda, that’s what history teach and we better pay attention,
        Hedge and pension funds have more money than most banks anyway these days, nobody is benefiting from the Arab spring,
        All I am saying is that too many things happening that nobody can predict,the Rothchilds are has been and the new players don’t have the same agendas.
        Saving the planet is the priority and those with money are the ones who will help fix it if they want their grand kids to take over the multinationals.

        • Who owns Google? Its shareholders do.

          • Dustin says:

            I’m out of my league here, but this only took a few minutes on google, NASDAQ says Vanguard Inc holds the largest part of the top 5 shareholders in “Alphabet Inc.” Alphabet Inc being the parent company to google.

            I’m not sure what positions mean in the stock world (whether it’s what share’s this company owns or what company’s own of theirs) but the VANGUARD GROUP INC. NASDAQ listing has APPLE INC., MICROSOFT CORP., and EXXON MOBIL CORP. in the top 3 positions.

            Being ultimately lazy and bored by this point, I just typed those three with “Rothschild” following it and ended up on a page titled “ROTHSCHILD ASSET MANAGEMENT INC Top 10 Holdings in Q3 2015” at the OCTA Finace website.

            “Top 5 Holdings

            Apple Inc (AAPL), Microsoft Corp (MSFT) and Exxon Mobil Corp (XOM) made up the majority of Rothschild Asset Management Inc’s total US long portfolio in this quarter. These positions were top 3 and constitute 5.44% of Rothschild Asset Management Inc’s US-listed securities. The top 10 positions make about 14.33% of the fund’s portfolio value.”

            Maybe both you guys are right. Shareholders do own google, and those shareholders might in part be an asset management fund that shares the name Rothschild. I could be wrong with trying to interpret NASDAQ

            People say it’s conspiracy but maybe they’re just too lazy to learn about anything other than poptarts and football

          • Daniel Tinkov says:

            To Dustin Springfield down below (or up above, I have no idea where this is going to end).

            I also did the exact same check and I found interesting results. While Vanguard Inc is the biggest shareholder in the said companies, all of them have a majority institutional ownership which means, that the controlling package of stocks is held by the companies themselves. This means while Vanguard is the largest public shareholder in MICROSOFT, MICROSOFT is the majority owner with controlling stock. The same goes for Alphabet and especially APPLE who are very aggressive in protecting control.

            I also checked the Rothschild Asset Management and they indeed hold shares in the same companies, but they have no direct link to Vanguard to which they are a competitor in a sense. BTW, Vanguard is also a publicly traded fund listed on the NYSE. There you can see who is the biggest investor in the fund and as anyone that ever dealt with finance can probably guess – 401k’s, mutual funds, banks, pension funds, school boards, states, charities, etc.

            So why both funds own assets in the same companies? Well, it’s not too hard to guess – those are the best performing companies in the US since the 80s. It’s not a big surprise that everyone will see them as a sound long-term investment, one suitable for let’s say pension funds and 401k’s… what a coinkidink!

            So here is my theory, there might be a conspiracy going on here. A vast network of retirees trying to control all the financial assets in the country. Coincidently, old people also constitute the largest block of voters and have control over Congress, the President and the Supreme Court. In light of those facts, I strongly suggest you think twice before cursing that old lady going about her business down at the grocery store, who knows, she might send the NSA after you.

          • Richard Sharpe says:

            Oh hell, now we’re going to have to kill Daniel Tinkov. Someone get Rosa Klebb on the phone.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Yeah, it’s impossible that Mike Rothschild is unrelated to the rich European family. Everyone knows that they make sure their agenda keeps up its 200-year-plan goals by having guys with their same name post essays about Facebook memes on a science and skepticism blog. It’s integral to their world domination and extremely effective propaganda. You can probably deduce why they don’t place this mind-controlling content in large media outlets with a reader- or viewer- or listenership in the millions. Mike Rothschild, disinfo agent, is far more effective with a much smaller publication. Very devious. And how many people not in the same family could possibly have the same last name? Has anyone ever told you about the Smith conspiracy to rule the world? There’s more than 2 million Smiths in the US, and more every day. They’re in banking, food, the military, education, media, the arts, science, government, entertainment, religious institutions, and every other part of our lives that you can think of. That’s not a coincidence, you can be sure of that.

    • deminthon says:

      ” I don’t believe in coincidence, that’s for sure. ”

      Then you are severely lacking in intelligence and an understanding of the world and your opinions are worthless.

  21. Peter says:

    It’s not a matter of Mike having the same last name, although I do question his reasons for posting this article. I would say the most logical explination is he was born into a family name that is the same as another that has a lot of attention for the shady underhanded dealings they have going on within the Rothschild’s family (unlinked to himself), and is clearly fed up of every time he gets into conversations with others about these sorts of matters, people using his last name as a means to slander and debunk his opinion. However, I find his conclusions and evidence limited and not fully researched. If anyone truly believes just because he has the same last name as the Rothschilds, therefore he is in on a greater conspiracy I would consider to be a little short sighted, but like I said earlier, the most realistic explination is that he’s trying to protect his pride and his name. As previously stated, in my earlier post, to confuse the principles of Judaism and Zionism clearly shows the mans lack of research, and in turn weakeness his stance in the rest of his article. To repeat the close of my previous post “proof read”. It is vital to a good article.

    Another thing to keep in mind here is you’re discussing “memes”. Memes are not always the truth. Also they are a cultural phenomena of a mimicking behavior. It is not always based on truth, for example the spiderman derailer, LOTR Sean Bean’s “one does not simply” and lolcats. There is not really much point analysing them. I understand your point of attmepting to analyse a portion based on a specific area (in this instance “the Rothschilds”), but realistically you would have been better off doing an actual article on the Rothschilds and looking further into them as a family, with the countless documentaries there are to offer on them, among others, as well as articles with family tree history etc, rather than basing your whole argument on “memes”.

    Hope this helps for your next piece.

    “I’m for truth, no matter who tells it. I’m for justice, no matter who it’s for, or against” – Malcom X

    • It has nothing to do with “protecting my name.” The vast majority of people aren’t dumb enough to think the Rothschild banking dynasty rules the world, while counting Hitler among their progeny. Believe it or not, most of us don’t obsess over this stuff, or even think about it at all. It’s about correcting things that are wrong. These memes get passed around social media (not just Facebook) and people believe them.

      But please, do tell me what research I should have “fully done” to write this piece.

      • pia says:

        with all due respect, this research would be a start…

        • What was factually incorrect about what I wrote? I’ll take one thing. Anything. Gimme something.

        • Peter says:

          Thanks for that piece of insight John. However, you seem to be forgetting all the war and famine and death that comes with what you’re talking about. The point is it doesn’t have to be that way, even slightly. There are many better ways, for one look at what the Ubuntu party are suggesting. This is a much better and sustainable idea that would relieve the world of poverty and the need for a monetry system. Oh and please don’t talk about nationalistic sentiment etc when your country is built on the corpses of the Aborigines that the English killed, when they decided to steal their land and have been oppressing the remaining survivors for well over 200+ years.

          • Bilbo says:

            It does have to be this way, because this is the way it is. The only way the solution you’re suggesting can exist is if there is this problem to solve. Comprende?

  22. rob hilleary says:

    So often I hear the question, “Did you know that the Federal Reserve is not a branch of Government, but is PRIVATELY OWNED???” “Eee ghads!! No I didn’t”, I might have trepidatiously replied. But then, they will never tell you who these private owners are, preferring that you’re probably imagining a mysterious cabal of ultra elite banker/satanists who get off on kidnapping and eating Christian children…But the truth isn’t very exciting, and not liable to inspire an ax-wielding populace to march into Congress and demand accountability. The owners of the Federal Reserve are none other than the member banks themselves. Member banks are basically every bank and every bank holding company that operates in the U.S.. They are required to purchase shares of stock in concomitance to their size and the value of their assets. Fed stock is owned exclusively by its member banks. No other entity can purchase or own it. And as far as the Fed being independant and aloof to government scrutiny: the Fed Chairman and Vice Chairman and all seven Governors are appointed by the President, and each must be approved by the Senate. The Fed chairman must appear before Congress several times a year to report on the health of the economy and the status of the Fed and answer questions put by members of the congressional banking committee.

  23. Peter says:

    in answer to your question Mike, you state in your article:
    “The very fabric of the claim is silly. A “central bank” is by definition not a privately owned institution, but a governmental mandate. It’s the entity responsible for overseeing monetary policy, interest rates and currency supply for a nation. Saying the current Rothschilds “own” the Bank of England is like saying Bill Gates owns the Federal Reserve. He doesn’t and they don’t”

    Well I’m sorry to tell you, but that’s incorrect. The name may sound very official, but in fact they are both privately owned banks that have stock shares that can be purchased (but only if you are part of their membership system, a.k.a “the club”), but yes, they both control the production of paper currency.

    Now we have established that this is wrong in your article, let’s get back to the point. Research and things you could have researched. Well obviously you could have started by researching the fed (that’s a given), two, you could have looked into ARM ltd and who owns them and what holdings the Rothschilds family have in Israel. Three, the Balfour declaration of 1917 and who was involved and why. Four, it may have been an idea to watch some documentaries and read some other articles on the matter to cross reference and gauge your angle (the money masters is a good doc for you to look at, interesting points and fairly well researched).

    There you go, I think I have sufficiently answered your questions and follow up points.

    • How do you buy shares of the Federal Reserve? Walk me through the process. Wake me up. Educate me.

      • Robert Gionis says:

        “How do you buy shares of the Federal Reserve? Walk me through the process. Wake me up. Educate me.”

        Member banks are the share holders. The Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm

        Educate yourself and look up which banks control the majority of shares…

        • Weatherwax says:

          Robert,
          I think you misunderstand. M Rothschild is posing the question as a challenge to Peter’s claim that the Federal Reserve is privately owned, just his question “Who owns the Federal Reserve?” is a challenge to william bryce’s claim that it is privately owned.

    • Andy says:

      Thank you for this response, it was pretty much everything I wanted to say.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Hey man, who confirms the governors of the Federal Reserve, appointed by the president? I’m pretty sure the Senate does. Yep, it does. Who has the power to audit and impeach the Fed and it’s trustees? Oh, also the Senate. Right. Who benefits from stable interest rates? Ah, the American public, which also includes American businesses and American banks, but it includes me, too, and possibly you.

      Have you ever heard of a public-private partnership? Because it’s a really common thing. Wherever you’re getting wake-up information has totally hornswaggled you into not asking some really basic questions about how the world works, of which the actually material, factual answers (not opinions or speculation) might completely throw a wrench into your beliefs.

      • Peter says:

        Wow Noah, thanks for you truly eye openning, information filled response, with all the evidence required to build a small raft and sail to Neverland and back. If you haven’t already guessed I am being sarcastic. You know, you have a bad habit of pouncing on everyone, thinking you have some form of superior interlect, but don’t back up any of your statements with evidence, or fact, you just attack (in other words, you bully). it’s pretty obvious you’re trolling, but I thought I would highlight your blatant, flagrant attacks upon others. however Noah, what you don’t realise is I have evidence and have illustrated this in my comments earlier when explaining to Mike about areas he could have looked into, sites to check, etc. I (unlike some) research before I discuss things. Maybe you should stop and think before you verbally blather out the first antagonistic comment that pops into your head without holding up anything to add weight to your claims. The proof is in the pudding. All you have to do is look into the majority share holders, the twelve corp banks that make up the fed and you already have 50% on the question answered, but obviously you’re too much of a sheep to bother openning your eys and looking outside of your 26″ flatscreen brainwashing machine. So, I suggest maybe you stick to watching CCN, Jeopardy and Big Bang theory.
        So, the senate audits the fed? No, you don’t say, reeeeeEEEeally? And might I ask, when did they last do that Noah, is it annually? And when they have audit them, what has been the extent of the audit, and who are the people that actually perform the physical audit and to what extent are tey allowed in to the fed, to perform said audit? Maybe you should look into these things, before commenting.
        Your clear attempts of anatagonism bore me.

  24. Peter says:

    That’s just the point, “you” don’t.
    Unless you are part of the membership system, then you can’t. the shares of the FED are sold on the basis of establishing membership. National banks are required by law to join, they buy shares to gain membership. It’s basically like a very expensive members club, but this club controls the currency and you are forced to join if you’re a large national bank, but by joining, you are protected (thus the too big to jail scenario with the massive bail outs that then ensued). So basically a bankers club.

    I can see you’re getting a little irate. So I’ll leave this as my last post.

    You really should do more research and definitely get someone to proof read your work before you post it. It’s vital to being a good journalist.

    Peace and good luck in your future endeavours 🙂

  25. Joseph says:

    The journalist if we can call him that is clearly a moron, it is likely a sponsored piece paid for by their propaganda programme, lets ask him how much he sold his soul for.

    • Alison Hudson says:

      It’s true. We’re all paid shills of the Rothschilds, except for those of us who shill for the Illuminati. There’s an exclusivity clause between the two groups, so no writing for both. We all shill for Big Pharma, of course, but they’re not a direct competitor of the “big two” world domination schemes. They just want to make you all really sick.

      Which reminds me: hey Big Pharma! Where’s my check? Rent’s coming due soon and it’s a tight month.

  26. To the author: apart from saying “no, they aren’t” and “no they didn’t”, do you have any facts or sources where you can disprove the accusations? A reasonable man cannot stand accused of grand larceny on a global scale, and have his defence state “No, I didn’t”…

    Having no privately-owned bank in Afghanistan, Libya & Iraq in 2001, and now there are private banks, favourable to the USA? That’s motive.

    The patent on miniature electronic components that used to belong to scientists and engineers (all 20 of whom were killed in MH370), now belonging to Evelyn Rothschild’s company? That’s motive.

    Defend if you will, but please have some evidence against your accusers.

  27. Dean Grey says:

    So you are a Rothschild….who has a blog about the Rothschilds…and we are supposed to accept your information as true and credible, while you state you cannot reveal anything that has not already been revealed… In that case, care to comment on the seemingly satanic balls and parties in which photographs of representations of dead babies litter the dinner tables and every decoration is demonic? You know, the photos released in newspapers across the country who try to paint it as some thematic Halloween party picture, or something along those lines?
    Sorry I don’t buy it; I read the entire Rothschild website and you all think you are so sneaky. Unfortunately, I paid attention in school and happen to be able to mark down every historical event corresponding to every documented business event/acquisition listed and connect the dots. I’d say 99% of America is brainwashed into taking an “authority” figures word for it, but I’ve studied Milgrams work on obedience to authority and Solomon Asch’s work on conformity in depth and see right through–not even the post itself, but the person who types the post. Psychologists will be the downfall of the Rothschild empire, and we intelligent researchers are not consumed by the ideas of Carl Jungs mystically based, stretched out philosophies that were propelled by the new world order so darn adamantly. We adhere more to reality and recognizing patterns of human mental process and behavior. For example, any given presidential speech is not an address to us, but rather another opportunity to study a worthy subject.
    We see you, we study you. That is all.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Yeah, again, it’s obvious that Mike Rothschild is part of some powerful cabal. That’s why he’s blogging for free on a WordPress blog. This is far more insidious and effective than doing the same thing on CNN or the Wall Street Journal. That’s how you know he’s part of a powerful conspiracy. That and his name. It’s the same way that you know everyone whose last name is Reagan, Carter, or Clinton is working for the Federal government, which does everything wrong in the world and tries to trick you all the time.

      Do you even think about the things that you’re saying or do you just type whatever pops into your head?

      So what have you learned from studying Mike Rothschild, treacherous blogger?

    • As a proud Catholic in Reno, Nevada, I have read the information about there illuminati, Satanic parties and their net worth. Although, they are the richest family in the world, I think their intentions are good despite their religion. I respect their religious choice and feel they are teaching the world how to be humble and appreciate what we have.

      Grace
      I deeply thank the Rothchild family for getting the world straight and keeping us on the Golden path; in our confusion. I benevolently love the Rothchild family and feel they are doing their best to teach us how to be humble. Reflect on this deeply. The Rothchilds are teaching the human race how to be humble and to work together out of love for each other. The Rothchilds are not the problem but our only solution for the future of the known world and beyond. I see clearly and love the Rothchild Family with all my mind, body and spirit. We have been truly blessed by this influential family and I cannot imagine the stress, duress they must be under to help this ailing world. I pray everyday that they finally get control of the Middle East and the world will be one step closer to peace and eventually attain it. My only question is how do I donate to the Family? or anyway I can support, them if not monetarily?

      • Noah Dillon says:

        Dude, you have been sorely misled. There’s no credible evidence that they’re Satanic, part of any alleged Illuminati, or that they’re “the richest family in the world.” And they are no more a solution to the world’s problems than they are a cause of them. They’re not a unified bloc of people. They’re wealthy and aristocratic, but they have far less power than you or most of the other commenters here think. Stop trying to figure out how to give them money; they’re not one group and don’t need it. Instead, figure out how to help your community and to promote peace and economic justice.

        • Peace

          I know Noah, but I cannot change the path I’m on. I love the Rothchilds as Christ loves the Father. Hoosanah in the very highest to the entire family. Besides, Reno is doing great economically with the addition of Tesla and about it being the Meth Capital of the State, anyone who visits will be poorly mistaken. Although, you can reply I will not be reading it or replying back. My path has already been set.

          Grace,
          Dashaun Lipscomb
          P.S. I just love the family for some reason, I feel I was put on this planet to learn from them and be blessed into the family. NOTHING CAN CHANGE THIS, I EVEN HAD A DREAM FROM GOD (yhwh) WHICH TOLD ME KNOW ONE CAN STOP ME. This goes beyond human thought and understanding. Will I respond to you?? No, my fate is already written and as long as I am able, this is the only way. Take care of you and your family Dillon. Perhaps one day you will see me in Reno, Nevada, i will never leave here, even when I pass on my spirit is here. I’m Nevada Proud and everything is just fine here as it should be.

  28. Eddie Dunn says:

    No offense sir, but you clearly have an axe to grind with this article. 🙂

  29. Emeral says:

    Secret society’s have been set for thousands of years. Their missions isn’t part of pure evil Its about world balance. Religions are the main cause of reasons of conflicts & misunderstandings
    Our world is made by ideological fanatics which is the pure cluster of evil!!!

  30. So who controls the banks if not them?

    • What makes you think that there is any one control of anything?

    • Noah Dillon says:

      What exactly do you mean? Banks are corporations run by managers, boards of directors, executives, and other business people. But they’re often large, complicated institutions that do a lot of different things. So even when they’re well managed, you can have individuals or even whole divisions that do insane, risky, destructive things, as we saw in the housing crisis.

      The Federal Reserve manages monetary policy in the US in order to maintain inflation at about 2%, which many economists believe is optimal: not too much inflation, not too little, since either too much or too little can be damaging to a nation’s economy. In part, this means that part of the Fed’s job is to regulate banks according to national law, though different banks can select different agencies in the government to regulate them. It also means that the Fed acts as a bank to the banks. However, the Fed is not one entity. Instead, it’s a group of decentralized central banks. The most powerful one is the New York Fed, but they exist in several places across the US and are semi-autonomous.

      You can get all this information from a decent textbook, encyclopedia, or Wikipedia. These are facts. Whether you think an institution like the Fed should exist or not, or what the role of banking and financial institutions should be, or whatever, is a different matter. But no one controls the Fed, nor all the banks, nor any significant portion of the world’s money.

  31. dan says:

    Ummm you said the banks in hungary and iceland were nationalized and so ended the central bank. But who owned them in the first place then?

  32. Paul William says:

    Dude, you’re a Rothschild writing this. WTF?

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Obviously all people with the same name are intricately related and plotting conspiracies. Mojo Nixon helped Richard Nixon perpetrate the Watergate coverup. Saddam Hussein was the brother of Barack Hussein Obama. Will Smith is the “Invisible Hand of the Market” predicted by his cousin, Adam Smith. Andrew Jackson and Michael Jackson are actually the same person. Mike Rothschild ensures global control by writing free blog posts about Facebook nonsense. Very sharp eyes you’ve got.

  33. Italmalk says:

    Mark Rothschild you are using the Word Jew in the same context as Rothschild , just a question when you are using the word Jew are you using it in the context of Ethniticity or Religion?

  34. David A. Hereaux says:

    Either way, they’re all pos’.

  35. John says:

    Thought I’d give you some insight on some very simple truths that hopefully will not counter your skepticism.
    1. Yes, there are many groups who at one time or another attempted and still attempt to expand their influence and profit.

    2. Yes, it is true that the Rothschild banking family did play a major role in forming current monetary policy. The procedures their banks (banks controlled by the sons of Mayer) followed in cooperating with one another was elevated as the standard procedures for all international banks in the early 19th century. Early development of Basel protocols came from them directly.

    3. Yes, they did eventually evolve into playing a more administrative role in international monetary policy instead of the competitive banking family they were known to be in the 18th century.

    4. Yes, they still play a key role consulting multinational companies and not much of the family’s actual wealth is known. They have been very successful in keeping private matters private as they are entitled to.

    5. No, I don’t think they are attempting to “take over the world” but they are active in pushing for more cooperation between nations, especially developing ones. They are also active in promoting and funding new energy alternatives and green energy projects. Their investments in the completion of Masdar city in the U.A.E shows this interest.

    You see Mike, there is a problem coming from the highest circles but it is nothing new and not all members of the council or other families around them agree with what should be done about the current state of the world. If they did, this world would already be very different and probably better.

    The biggest problem doesn’t come from greedy powerful people in banking, industry, or government because powerful individuals throughout all human history have always attempted to consolidate more power. This has always been true but wherever greed and selfish people have risen so to have those who counteract this powerful force. Men like MLK, Ghandi, and even those who have caused a lesser effect like Edward Snowden have helped in counteracting these ambitious forces. Our biggest threat is our own apathy. People simply don’t care or don’t care enough to do anything about it and those who are ready to take advantage of this fact are shaping society as we speak. I tell you truth fellow intellectual. Take it from a guy who use to work among these individuals. The conspiracy theorist with all their ranting are only inching to the truth so don’t be hasty to disregard all their claims as nonsense.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Hey John.

      1. “Groups who at one time or another attempted and still attempt to expand their influence and profit” is a phrase that, in a free market, describes every business that has more than one employee.

      2. That’s at least five assertions. Can you tell me what you’re citing so that we can all find out what kind of evidence you have for those claims?

      3. Again, what evidence do you have for this history?

      4. What evidence? Who is “they”? All members of the extended family? Anyone named Rothschild? Or what?

      5. What evidence? What investments?

      What council? Highest circles of what? Of wealth? Of political power? Of social visibility? Do you just need a name or a wealthy parent to be a part of such a circle? Or is it more complicated than that? I can think of a lot of people who are famous, who are wealthy, or who are influential, but not necessarily more than one of those things. And very few of them are dynastic. Do you think the vast majority of people in the world agree about how it would be better? Does that have something to do with why and how the world is the way it is at this moment? I think so.

      Do you think that maybe more people than just MLK and Gandhi had an effect on how power is used and distributed? I don’t think MLK marched through Selma or to Washington by himself, and I’m pretty sure his role in the Civil Rights Movement was a point of contention even at the time. Same with Gandhi. Great individuals don’t usually warp history: crowds do. The problem with conspiracy mongers is that although they may want truth, they’re casting their lights in the wrong directions, which is a waste of time, talent, resources, and attention. Did you ever think that maybe instead of the particular people in power, that perhaps the structures and systems of power are the actual problem? Rothschilds and Clintons and and Pauls and Bushes and Windsors, etc., don’t harm people; the imposition of bad policies does. And such bad policies can be found under every government, whether they’ve got name recognition or not.

  36. “The very fabric of the claim is silly. A “central bank” is by definition not a privately owned institution, but a governmental mandate. ”

    All right – who owns the US Federal Reserve? Shareholders do. Who are these shareholders? Private banks. So either private banks are not private or your claim is silly … ?

  37. Tim says:

    I see, so you passionately expect me to believe that “the era of the Rothschilds “controlling the world’s money supply” is long over…… however you never admit that they once did….. this is highly contradictory and sounds like a cover -up. Lets say that for the era to be over there obviously was one….. and now lets imagine that the most powerful financial force on the planet just handed its power over to….. whoever…… I don’t buy this apologist argument for a minute…..

    The Rothschilds obviously dont disclose their vast wealth…. or are you suggesting they would never use hidden bank accounts and “Fronts”….. give me a break……. we are talking about ruthless criminals here… not holier than though philanthropists….

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Uh… Yeah, obviously this cover-up goes all the way to the top. You can tell because it’s published by a volunteer writer in a science and skepticism blog. That’s how you can tell there’s a lot of money at stake.

      So what’s the evidence for your claims? You’re saying it’s obvious how wealthy, powerful, and historically manipulative anyone with a Rothschild name is. What evidence do you have for that?

      • TimTim says:

        lets talk about “trickle down economics”….. and then lets consider “trickle down power”… in just the same way the rich don’t Distribute their money……. The POWERFUL dont distribute their Power”…

        You can be the apologist for these Psychopathic elitists who fund wars for profit, and you can keep putting words in other peoples mouths, but you wont change the fact that people will soon be taking revenge.

        Destroying lecherous manipulative people is a part of the evolution of the Human spirit……

  38. Mike, thanks for writing this article. We were close friends with Edmond, Benjamin’s father.

  39. I found a Russian investment check for railways year of 1912. It says that The value can be traded in Rothschild Paris, Rothschild Berlin, Rothschild and sons London And imperial.bank Moscow _ st Petersburg. I guess they don’t own them anymore??? Surely they do.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Why? Who says that those institutions still exist? Do they? Have you tried to find out? Does a Russian investment check that could be traded in for cash 103 years ago mean that they own everything? Dupont is a public company and yet it still bears the family name. JP Morgan is no longer owned by JP Morgan. Ford isn’t owned by Ford. Burroughs Adding Machine was sold to a third party. You could be right, but I don’t think it’s safe to assume that just because someone in a family used to own a bank that it means anyone in the family still does, and, beyond that, that the family is horrifically wealthy and powerful and evil.

  40. Guest says:

    “China, Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea are communist countries with tightly regulated state-owned economies.”

    Venezuela isn’t a communist country. Socialist, yes, but not communist.

  41. tim says:

    Sorry bud but it’s a bunch of bullshit. Rothschild.still own the central banks. Nathan amshel Rothschild, owns and controls the imf and world bank. Rothschild own and control the irs and fed. Before 9/11 there were no.Central banks in Afghanistan and Iraq. Couple years after there is. Illuminati signs in movies, actors giving illuminati signs. No!!!! They’re in control

  42. Anon says:

    So, what you’re saying is that Judaism is not a religion but an ethnicity/DNA-trait?
    Frankly, THAT is the most anti-semitic statement I’ve read.

  43. Sass says:

    The Rothschild family created the Zionist Movement which is probably the single most destructive entity the world has ever known. They have taken a religion and turned it into a political movement that allows them to carry out any actions they see fit to meet their political goals and anyone who speaks out about the atrocities this family and Zionist in general are responsible for is quickly called a racist and shunned out of any relevant conversation. They have successfully manage to create this public perception that Zionism = Jewish people and that couldn’t be farther from the truth. About 1% of Jewish people are Zionists, yet the heavily Zionist controlled media essentially forces the American people to sympathize with Israel in every way possible by bombarding our televisions, newspapers, and radios with report after report showing “terrorist” attacking Israel left and right all in the name of religion. They’ve convinced the American people that the reason there’s war in the Middle East is because Islamic fundamentalists just hate Jewish people and don’t want them to have their own country. They don’t tell you that for hundreds of years before 1948 the Palestinians and their families lived peacefully along side Jews in Palestine (present day Israel) and the Zionist STOLE that land from the Palestinian people!! They don’t tell you that the Palestinians are angry because of the fact that the Zionist have been waging a 60 year holocaust against the Pals and have forced them to live in some of the most atrocious setting possible. They are denied access to roads, hospitals, health care of any kind, food, clean water, and just about anything else you can think of. The Zionist are using the suffering and oppression of the Jewish people throughout history as a means to justify anything they want to do. They control the finical structure of just about every country on the planet along with the media and some of the most powerful political positions in the world. The Rothschild family is at the head of this movement and is directly responsible for just about every war and financial crisis the world has seen in the past century . These people have stolen Judaism from real Jewish people and have used it as an excuse to do whatever they want to whomever they want and it’s absolutely disgusting!! Ask any real Jew who knows their religion and they’ll tell you the very same thing I just said. These people that you’ve decided to defend for reasons I just can’t seem to understand are nothing but animals disguised as humans. It would do you well to actually do some research on both sides instead of just looking for some good they’ve done and writing about it. All you’re doing is pushing the same bs that they’ve been feeding us for years now and trying to make people believe that speaking out against these criminals makes you a racist. Well I’m calling bull s*** on this one. Get a grip.

  44. WOW! I have to read all these comments over again. Great debate.

  45. Mike Tillett says:

    The U.S. alone has assets totaling $188 trillion dollars and the world derivative market is now $4.1 quadrillion!!! I’m not a Rothschild conspiracy guy, but your numbers are way off.

  46. Steve says:

    the richest Rothschild is only worth a few billion. ? considering that the family were the first billionaires over a century ago that would suggest they are hopelessly incompetent money managers. Hardly . They have controlling interest in most media outlets and so ensure a low profile. Mike displays the classic evasiveness of his namesake family. the U.S. Federal Reserve is a private bank. JFK would confirm that if he had not tried to print U.S. government currency.

  47. silvernblacksabbath says:

    If a leader doesn’t want a Rothschild owned bank in his/ her country, you can bet that person will be assassinated or the Israel owned USA/UK will invade that country and start war…. Just look at Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. Wonder why all the propaganda about North Korea and Iran.. Well guess what, they don’t have A Rothschild owned bank YET!!!!

  48. John Kirby says:

    The Rothschild family were the dominant source of investment capital in the 19th century. Anybody hoping to start a bank at that time went to the Rothschilds for capital. So the Rothschilds took shares in these banks, becoming big shareholdes in most big banks.
    The Rothschilds did not sit on the boards of these banks but used proxies. Whatever we know about the wealth of the Rothschilds is hidden under layers of ownership.

    The big banks are major shareholders in most big companies and land holdings, and so thru their various trusts are the Rothschilds. It is difficult to estimate what these vey old shareholdings are worth, but it would be in trillions of dollars

    • dash19 says:

      I feel you John. 1 luv for the 85 + as E-40 raps about; I luv the Rothchilds and the other 84 super elite. In fact, we are all family and childs of God; hence Rothchild- rich in love.

      • philmo says:

        Going back a few hundred years the Rothchilds and royalty the held financial power. Once you have that position it’s impossible to lose it , you monitor anyone else who starts to get big, and you either kill them , or buy them out.

        The Rothschilds like to hide their wealth by putting it in the name of surrogates like the Rockefellers, the Queen just makes it illegal for people to discuss her holdings.JEWS CONTROL the world. Here’s how it happened:
        1649: Jews finance Cromwell’s beheading of Charles I. Cromwell reciprocates by allowing Jews to return to England.

        1694: William of Orange, King of England, asks Jews for financial help to keep the Stuarts at bay. Jews issue bank notes on interest to William of Orange and first central bank has its beginnings.

        1697: London Stock Exchange becomes the world’s largest “purse.” Twelve ruling seats are reserved for Jews only.

        1750: The Jew, Mayer Amschel Rothschild, becomes prime money lender to the Crown. The House of the Red Shield is established.

        1753: King George II, a pawn of Mayer Rothschild and Amsterdam Jewish bankers, passes a Naturalization Bill allowing Jews to become British subjects.

        1808: Napoleon becomes master of Europe. He issues a decree which the Jews termed the Decret Infame (Infamous Decree). The Decret Infame placed many justifiable restrictions on the Jews. Jews plan their revenge.

        1814: The Battle of Waterloo signifies the end of Napoleon’s heroic anti-Jewish rule & the Christian domination of Europe. Both James Rothschild of France and Nathan Rothschild of England finance Wellington’s victory over Napoleon at Waterloo.

        1815: James & Nathan Rothschild order European rulers to assemble at the Congress of Vienna. The Rothschilds draft a plan that would make it impossible for another Napoleon to rise to power by creating a European “balance of power.”

        ~ Thus if one European nation became too powerful, the other nations would rally and attack it. This meant that a nation that the Jews considered their enemy, would undergo punitive measures from Jewish “pawns.”

        1848: Jews demand that the Gentiles turn over their property to them through the book The Communist Manifesto written by Rothschild-agent, Karl Marx.

        1890: The largest munitions factory in the world, Vickers of England, is established by the Rothschilds. The stage is set for the Rothschild’s engineering of World War I and all future wars.

        1906: Guglielmo Marconi’s invention of the radio is marketed and taken over by the Jew, David Sarnoff. Sarnoff establishes the Marconi Company in England and RCA in America. Thus begins the Jewish control of the media.

        1910: Jews take over the office of Minister of Finance throughout Europe. Louis Klotz becomes Minister of Finance of France; Michael Luzzati of Italy; Bernhard Dernburg of Germany; Rufus Isaacs of England; and Djavid Bey of Turkey. All Jews.http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=140

  49. Remy says:

    Can i feel free to citate the Talmud about having sex with children here? I dont know where the urge comes from, something to do with zionism i guess. Ask real Jews. Or some research about the star symbol on the Israeli flag and its connection with the Rothschild mansion in Frankfurt and zionism? Zionists have key roles all over the world, its just common knowledge since they are open about it themselves. Just study the Talmud, which is very important in Zionism and you will begin to understand that its not a positive thing that zionists (not ‘real’ Jews) are in leading roles around the world. Especially Hollywood, just research on it. Luckily the real Jews are protesting more and more against these Zionists. Zionists are not active for the good cause! I am definitely NOT an anti-semite but i do know where to spot evil when its out there. Bye

    • Shayne says:

      You do realise all those “Talmund says to screw kids” things arent actually in the Talmud. Most of these bogus quotes seemed to have come from David Duke, a US KKK leader, and when you actually look them up, surprise surprise, they aren’t real.

  50. I read this article thinking this is like it is written by a Rothschild – not having noticed beforehand that it actually is. I therefore would not believe one word of what is written here!

    • Neither would I, brother. Neither would I.

    • Gustav says:

      I can understand why MORON is capitalized i your name! Why do so many people who cannot think critically think they have the right to comment on the writings of those who can.

      • tim says:

        A Personal attack Gustav…. Consider that his argument is based on logic and yours on emotion …. Consider that his name is a setup for morons to fall into and you did exactly that…. Consider that you think you are somehow better than others…… All signs point to you being deluded by an inflated ego …. Much the same as most zionist psychopaths.

        • Rob Crawford says:

          While indeed it is a personal attack, the post being responded to could hardly be called ligical

          • tim says:

            Rob, perhaps check the definition of the word logical whole you are checking the spelling?

          • Rob says:

            Oh no a typo therefore everything is void, now there’s logic one can definitely couldn’t argue with.

            But then again I have seen this behaviour with the ID crowd, young earth crowd, ‘truthers’ the anti vax crowd, the NWO crowd, the anti illumanti crowd (I have a rather nice All Seeing Eye tattoo BTW) and the zionist psychopath crowd (both pro and anti)

            From what I can see Gustavs response was based on evidence contained within caMORONS posting

            Literacy issues and I quote “not having noticed beforehand that it actually is.” (Is that the the screams from the tortured grammar used ringing in my ears?)

            Discounting something based solely around a surname (definitely logical)

            Although a personal attack was not the best thing to do, does appear to be based on evidence.

            Lets look at your logic against Gustavs posting

            caMORON’s statement was based on logic : No it wasn’t

            Name calling and accusations of inflated ego : Not really it shows irritation when reading nonsense

            “psychotic zionist” : perhaps Godwin should add additional categories just for you

            So you criticise a personal attack then launch one yourself, I could say I’m impressed, but I suspect you would probably believe me.

            I don’t know where you come from but where I come from logic is sometimes defined as “the use and study of valid reasoning” and you have failed in this definition, though you probably have your own warped one anyway

            As for your response to me, well to be honest my cat could made a more coherent contribution, she can work with logic I am hungry therefore I want food and she doesn’t try to invalidate any statement due to a simply typo.

            If I had posted something illogical, or illiterate I would have accepted criticism, added clarification and made corrections.

            However there was a typo (the intended word is obvious) and your confusion over what logic is, leads me to suspect you have nothing useful to say to the human race.

            I genuinely feel sad for those who simply react to trigger words and hope for better things, but sadly I think I am going to continue being disappointed in both education systems and people

        • Peter Smith says:

          He is one of the Chosen

  51. Rob Crawford says:

    What’s that Time nothing useful to add?

    What’s that throwing insults because you have nothing else

    Touched a nerve no, I provided evidence that caMORON was not very bright and although Gustav was mistaken in using a personal insult.

    Are you caMORON or just somebody else that makes what can only be described as ignorant statements and shine about insults while insulting others.

    There’s a saying “its best to he quiet and be thought a fool, rather than opening your mouth and removing all doubt” you (and caMORON) should pay attention to that.

    Now go back to being quiet please, you need to try and keep some dignity intact

    • Tim says:

      Typical zionist propaganda comment.

      End of the day you do nothing more than confirm your own pathetic vanity by trying to discredit the more honest moralistic in humanity. You are the true lowest form of humanity.

      These arguments and dribble you spew from your selfish egotistical self justification are easily trumped by recognising that only the death and destruction of humanity’s most vulnerable fuel your thirst and hunger for wealth and power.

      You are murderers and thieves,the lowest of the creations.

      We owe you nothing and you owe us everything.

      Understand?

      • Rob Crawford says:

        Let’s see I point out the issues and you respond with accusatory bile.

        I’m unsure as to wether you should be sitting under a bridge waiting for se billy goats or asking your primary carer to keep you away from the internet.

        • Mudguts says:

          I agree.. maybe Tim keeps a lizard.. who knows?

          People with web resticles are hardly the athletes to threat the way they post..

          Tim.. go out and do some running or swimming. Clearly parking behind blog rot hasn’t done much good..

  52. Kado says:

    What bothers me the most is that I can guarantee that most of you don’t even understand the current global banking system. To start, it doesn’t really matter if Zionists are behind the system or not (though it’s highly likely), what really matters are what it does to a society/nation/state/population. Once YOU truely understand how it works, the first thing you will do is deny it, then you will be angry, then you will feel hopeless and finally if you’re some what clever, you will understand that this world we live in much more cruel than you could ever imagine. To finish, I will give you some sources to interesting info about the banking system. The first thing is the UK based movement called ‘positive money’, they mention nothing about Rothschild/Zionists, just fundementally explains how it works. The second thing is the maastricht article 104 paragram 1, where it states that member countries (of the EU) are prohibited to make their own soverign money, but instead have to borrow (at high interest, of course) from financial institutions (read international banks). Please everyone, go through these two things thoroughly and really understand how it works, and then reply here and explain to me how this system is for the good of mankind and not only for the top elite of money issuing banks of this worlds, please explain this?!

    • Eric Hall says:

      Kado – I think you might misunderstand the view of most skeptics on this topic (though I will speak for myself). The skeptic part of me objects to people seeing it as some conspiracy or some kind of secret. You are aware of many of the aspects of central banking, and so are many of us. There is no secret. As a skeptic, I find it detracts from having a real discussion on what we should do to make the economy better – meaning having it benefit everyone to some minimum standard.

      The theory of money and economics is very complex, and there are many smart writers and prize-winning economists who think central banking can stabilize the economy – including those who would be considered liberal. Some conservatives also like central banking because it provides the same control to benefit their particular aims. Like anything in government, something that is good or even necessary is always being twisted to fit some political aim. U.S. tax policy is full of personal and corporate exemptions which are put in place to benefit particular groups of constituents. But yet taxes are necessary to fulfill the requirements laid out in the U.S. constitution.

      Should we discuss the pros and cons of the policies you lay out above? Absolutely. But there is no need to discuss the conspiracy of it – because it is nonsense and doesn’t solve any problem. (Note: I’m not saying you were calling it a conspiracy, just talking in general)

  53. Why anyone would go to all this trouble attempting to dispel conspirecy theories concerning the Rothschilds is in its self disturbing !!! Go do something productive for humanity instead of trying to defend greedy warmongering reprobates whose obsession with power and money is causing misery on a World wide scale . You come across as a sad little know it all.

  54. George Butel says:

    Here’s another one: https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11222911_10153634767122042_964430859608325527_n.jpg?oh=be9edfcd59054ee8000166cfa58efe5f&oe=565F50D8. It’s from a so-called “education” Facebook page, “This Page Will Blow Your Mind”, although I don’t know if it’s original to that site.

    The meme reads, “One week before September 11, 2001, the Zim Shipping Company broke the lease it had held for 30 years and moved out of the World Trade Center. Zim is half owned by the Rothschilds.”

    You’re supposed to put your own 2 plus 2 together to get 8. There were literally hundreds of companies with offices in those buildings, and, if any of the Rothschild conspiracists are even partially correct, dozens or even a couple of hundred of those companies would have to have been “owned” in some manner by some kind of Rothschildian entity. Either the theory of crank magnetism is incorrect, and the Rothschildian conspiracists don’t share the same delusions as the 9/11 conspiracists, or they’re unable to see that if that one company moved because of foreknowledge, then others would have to have all suddenly moved as well. I don’t remember reading about any sudden exodus of tenants from the WTC immediately prior to the incident.

    There do exist a number of Rothschildian entities; see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family. It has been and still is a very wealthy, very powerful family. It would seem likely that some Rothschild descendant or Rothschildian entity would have to have held an interest in more than one of those companies that had offices in the WTC. It would be interesting to see a list of companies in which the Rothshilds held interests but that did not move out prior to 9/11.

  55. Siyory says:

    You are funny!

    As much as the accusations directed to the Rothschild may be false (not likely), I found what you say very interesting 🙂

    ” The very fabric of the claim is silly. A “central bank” is **by definition** not a privately owned institution, but a governmental mandate. It’s the entity responsible for overseeing monetary policy, interest rates and currency supply for a nation. Saying the current Rothschild “own” the Bank of England is like saying Bill Gates owns the Federal Reserve. He doesn’t and they don’t.”

    I bet you did not do a proper research, or else you are indeed a Gate or a Rothschild.

    We know the good works both Gates and Rothschilds do and we are grateful but I would never think of defending them from this internet nonsense….but anyway they are *people too* so they must be defended indeed, and you are direct in that.

  56. Tom says:

    I’m not a conspiracy theorist, and you may be right about those memes being rubbish, but saying the Federal Reserve is a public bank demonstrates a glaring paucity of understanding. It actually makes me think everything else you’ve said could be wrong too. However, other than knowing the Federal Reserve is `federal’ by name only, I’m going to err on the side of uncertainty with regards the rest. It’s something I recommend you embrace a little more. While the conspiracy theorists find their dose of certainty in overblown speculation; you find yours by blowing their speculation out of the water. However, you’ve not proven their conclusions wrong; only that they’ve been improperly reached. Skepticism is not about striving for certainty in a negative, such that you make ridiculous claims of your own to reach that negative. Skepticism is about tolerating uncertainty.

    • Jordy van Ekelen says:

      Thanks, very eloquently put! I accentuated this as well in my comment, it’s an absolute ludicrous claim given all the proof. He thinks that a government institute has to be regulated by the government, the FED is simply put a privately controlled entity that operates under the false pretend of being a ‘federally’ regulated institute. And that does certainly not correlate. This guy is a clown. He confuses unnecessary stigma’s with non existing motives and trivializes the entire issue by echoing that this has somehow to do with being anti Jewish, talk about patronizing. Some people will stigmatize you for believing in any conspiracy theory, even if it comes to proven and documented historical facts like the Guy Fawkes conspiracy, I literally had an argument with somebody explaining that conspiracy is something very trivial and he just couldn’t comprehend it. Which I believe are the most dangerously stupid people on this planet.

  57. “China, Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea are communist countries with tightly regulated state-owned economies.”
    .
    Venezuela is a Communist country?
    .
    “…while it’s true that the US seems to have perpetual conflict with many of these countries, that has far more to do with their oppressive and aggressive regimes suppressing human rights and provoking confrontations with the rest of the world than any mucking about by the Rothschilds.”
    .
    Is this guy serious?
    .
    While I don’t believe any of the Rothschilds crap, I didn’t read any further than that. This article is as much full of crap as the crap it is allegedly against.

  58. Mike Rothschild says:

    Eustace Mullins would beg to differ with this article !

  59. Paul Russell says:

    Thank you for thanking the time to produce this. We are constantly bombarded with misinformation these days, much of it malignant hateful and racist. It is nice to have articles such as this to fire back at them. Someone should make a list of sites were facts and truth still prevail. A stockpile of good information designed to debunk this poisonous plague.
    I am looking for any articles showing cases were misinformation in internet memes is resulting in funding by the naive for the vicious. In Ireland extremists were funded for years by misguided Irish Americans with terrible consequences. The Holy Land is currently suffering from such funding and the Wahhabis are also receiving such funding and recruits. Any factual information about levels of meme driven funding from any of your readers would be appreciated.
    Happy New Year and thank you.

  60. Jordy van Ekelen says:

    I am a skeptic by nature so I hope you won’t bomb me with nonsensical anti-Semitic stigma’s.

    First of, simply because an institution is recognized as an official governmental institute like the FED does not mean that it’s not privately controlled entity. Which it is, it’s a syndicate of many different banks with one of them being J.P Morgan’s Chase bank.

    To make this clear, there was a total amount of 9 TRILLION dollar missing from the Federal Reserve around 2000. Federal Inspector General Elizabeth Coleman simply didn’t want it to explain it to the representative which was Alan Grayson at the time. Ultimately they had to expose where the money went and a whopping 3 trillion dollars went to the J.P Morgan Chase bank. You would expect that the media would cover a colossal case like this. Guess what, they didn’t because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    Video Link to 9 TRILLION dollar missing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYNVNhB-m0o

    Besides, you say that the Rothschild’s don’t print money but the FED certainly does, that is a fact and it’s called fractional banking. Equivalently, they can take that away money causing enormous deflation and that is we’ve seen in recent years.

    The power of the Rothschild’s may have faded away over the years, but that power is now in the hands of other oligarch’s and monopolists.

    And I do believe that media outlets are privately owned as well especially after I watched the debate between Sanders and Clinton. Liberal or Conservative, Even the most rudimentary primate would acknowledge the win for Bernie, although the media totally ignored all the polls and actual substance. Even the News papers in my country, which has a central bank by the way have written that Hilary supposedly won. Of course that is inherently subjective, but everybody with two brain cells know this.

    After some digging the relations between all these entities become very clear and it’s becomes more obvious that it is a web of big names which are somehow all tied together. But I didn’t see any overwhelming amount of citations relating to the issue of the Rothschild’s not funding both wars. Be can both make presumptions but where is your proof?

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Who appoints, confirms, oversees, and audits the Federal Reserve? Who does the Federal Reserve have to deliver its reports to? Who can impeach the Federal Reserve’s officers? Various members of two branches of the federal government.

      The Rothschilds don’t print money, they don’t control the Federal Reserve, and they can’t take away money and cause deflation, which (deflation) has not happened. We have slower than optimal inflation, but we don’t have deflation. We’re not in a recession and we’re not in a depression and we don’t have deflation. We have inflation.

      If you’re worried about power, then work on criticizing power. The Rothschilds and the Fed are powers, but you don’t seem to understand them and you assign all sorts of magical powers to them that they don’t have, ignoring the actual real problems of the Federal Reserve and the federal government.

      Media outlets are definitely privately owned. That’s not a matter of belief. They are not publicly owned institutions, except for, like, PBS and your local cable access channels.

      Hillary Clinton has been winning debates and so has Bernie Sanders. This isn’t zero-sum. What winning means for each of them is different.

      Your digging doesn’t sound very rational. It sounds like you’ve been reading conspiracy-mongering nonsense.

      There’s no evidence that the Rothschilds funded any wars. And claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Taxpayers fund wars because wars are typically fought between governments, not private armies.

      • The Satisfied Customer says:

        There is no evidence they funded wars? are you on drugs?
        It’s public record all the major powers lent off them during the 19th century.
        Don’t tell me, it all changed after.
        Jesus wept if this Comments page is just for arse licking the Rothschilds with no actual evidence other than banal generalisations and babbling inanities then give it a rest. You and your band of cranks crack on.

  61. ChinoF says:

    I can’t believe the same old stuff I saw in the 1990’s in bulletin boards keeps getting spread today. Back then, they were saying the Illuminati/NWO/whatever-baloney-secret-cabal is planting chips in your forehead and hand, analogous to the Biblical 666 mark of the beast being placed on one’s forehead and hand. Fastforward more than 20 years, I don’t see anybody with that. If it really happened, news would have gotten out. It never did. That is looney Biblical misinterpretation.

    Same with those reports of Muslim no-go zones being marked in Europe and the U.S. These are all false. I have relatives in the U.K., and they say nothing about Muslim no-go zones. This is all a bunch of baloney by people who don’t go away from their computers to take a break. Go out and get into the real world.

  62. The Satisfied Customer says:

    So lies are told about the poor Rothschilds?
    Where do you get your sources from?
    What exactly are you denying? That the family has no power or money, or both?

    Please provide details of your families economic demise it might strike a cord with the working class cannon fodder you use around the world.
    A classic strawman argument – you pick an admittedly juvenile portrayal of a Rothschild then use that to basically say that means the poor family have been victimised unfairly.
    Are you really a family member or that former historian sell out liar Niall Ferguson.
    Tell me this, if there is any glimmer of truth in this fantasy of yours please explain why they always seem to pop up when a patents up for grabs or a false flag is needed.
    Put us right, educate us about the sorry decline of the family and where they originated from and don’t dare say ADL or anti-Semitism in your reply.

    Yours truly
    The Satisfied Customer

    • Noah Dillon says:

      That’s a fallacy called “the excluded middle.” Saying they’re not part of a Jewish cabal is not the same as saying they have no money or power. I don’t see anywhere in here that says they’re porr or victimized. This essay is about a baseless and (as your say) juvenile portrayal, nothing else.

      I’m pretty sure the guy who wrote this is not part of a rich family of winemakers from France. If he were, he, like the other Rothschilds, would be making expensive wine in France, rather than writing a volunteer blog. All people with the same last name are not related.

      I don’t know what your thing about parents and false flags means.

  63. John kaboukos says:

    Professor David Ice , clearly diisagreas with everything you say here, he specializes in zionism and the Rothschild family, as a matter of fact everything you say is completely the opposite to what he lectures on this matter, go to you tube and type in where have the Rothschild’s gone, I think you are related and are trying to undo the bad these people have and are doing to society , good luck in trying to clear the name, might be easier to change yours cheers

  64. Robert Gionis says:

    “The entire amount of financial assets held by the population of the earth is a bit less than $200 trillion.”

    Your figures are absolutely incorrect. The total National assets of the USA exceeds $116,000,000,000,000. The monetary supply is $12,000,000,000,000. Currency and credit derivatives exceed $477,000,000,000,000. http://www.usdebtclock.org/

    • This website has absolutely no citations backing it.

      • robert gionis says:

        Actually it does. Hover your cursor over any figure on the page and the source is displayed in the banner at the top. I’ve taken a screen shot if you would like me to send it to you.

      • Robert Gionis says:

        Total Assets of the U.S. Economy $188 Trillion, 13.4xGDP
        May 24, 2009 – Dr. John Rutledge

        I recently wrote about the fact that the forces impacting the U.S. economy’s balance sheet, at about $200 trillion, dominate those affecting GDP (just over $14 trillion) when thinking about interest rates and stock prices. A blog reader wrote to ask me where the $200 trillion figure comes from.

        First, I want to point out that it is revealing that we have to ask the question. Why is it that people know so much about something so small (GDP) but so little about something so big (total assets)? I think it is because since the 1930’s macroeconomics has developed into a discipline concerned almost exclusively with who is spending how much money. Very little attention is paid to the capital base, or balance sheet, that makes it possible to produce the goods and services measured as GDP. A glance at a newspaper or any list of data produced by the government will convince you this is the case.

        The best source of asset market, or balance sheet, information we have today is the document Z1: Flow of Funds of the United States produced after the end of each quarter by the army of economists working at the Federal Reserve Board.

        http://rutledgecapital.com/2009/05/24/total-assets-of-the-us-economy-188-trillion-134xgdp/

      • Robert Gionis says:

        Global OTC Derivative market figures for 2013.

        OTC derivatives markets continued to expand in the second half of 2013. The notional amount of outstanding contracts totaled $710 trillion at end-2013, up from $693 trillion at end-June 2013 and $633 trillion at end-2012.
        http://www.bis.org/publ/otc_hy1405.htm

  65. Robert Gionis says:

    “Money has been defined as the sum of transaction accounts in depository institutions, and currency and travelers checks in the hands of the public. Currency is something almost everyone uses every day. Therefore, when most people think of money, they think of currency. Contrary to this popular impression, however, transaction deposits are the most significant part of the money stock.

    Money is such a routine part of everyday living that its existence and acceptance ordinarily are taken for granted. A user may sense that money must come into being either automatically as a result of economic activity or as an outgrowth of some government operation. But just how this happens all too often remains a mystery.

    What is Money? If money is viewed simply as a tool used to facilitate transactions, only those media that are readily accepted in exchange for goods, services, and other assets need to be considered. Many things – from stones to baseball cards – have served this monetary function through the ages.

    Today, in the United States, money used in transactions is mainly of three kinds – currency (paper money and coins in the pockets and purses of the public); demand deposits (non-interest bearing checking accounts in banks); and other checkable deposits, such as negotiable order of withdrawal (NOW) accounts, at all depository institutions, including commercial and savings banks, savings and loan associations, and credit unions. Travelers checks also are included in the definition of transactions money. Since $1 in currency and $1 in checkable deposits are freely convertible into each other and both can be used directly for expenditures, they are money in equal degree. However, only the cash and balances held by the nonbank public are counted in the money supply. Deposits of the U.S. Treasury, depository institutions, foreign banks and official institutions, as well as vault cash in depository institutions are excluded.

    This transactions concept of money is the one designated as M1 in the Federal Reserve’s money stock statistics. Broader concepts of money (M2 and M3) include M1 as well as certain other financial assets (such as savings and time deposits at depository institutions and shares in money market mutual funds) which are relatively liquid but believed to represent principally investments to their holders rather than media of exchange. While funds can be shifted fairly easily between transaction balances and these other liquid assets, the money-creation process takes place principally through transaction accounts.” Modern Money Mechanics, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago Workbook. https://archive.org/details/ModernMoneyMechanics

  66. Don Gately says:

    If the Fed really is owned by the US Government (and by proxy the US people) why are they afraid of a comprehensive audit? The actions of a public entity should be public knowledge.
    As far as antisemitism is concerned – my dad is a Russian Jew – I know Jewish descent is matriarchal but Jewish blood is Jewish blood. The Catholic Church’s ban on usury loans in the middle ages lead to the predominance of Jewish bankers and the stereotype continues. It is a culture of greed that I’m sure many past and present Jews, along with Catholics, Lutherans, Orthodox Christians, Muslims, etc. etc. have bought into. Unrestrained capitalism and the culture of greed are the problem, not stereotypical “evil” Jews.

    • The Fed is already audited, by Deloitte and Touche. These audit statements are publicly available.

      http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/02/17/qa-explaining-audit-the-fed/

      • ED says:

        But they’re not audited by we the people. As stated in the Constitution. And you trust Deloitte and Touche, nice.

        • Noah Dillon says:

          The Constitution doesn’t say anything about the Federal Reserve banking system because it is never described in the Constitution. Like many Federal projects, it was enacted as a law. The Fed is audited by Congress, who are supposed to be representatives of people. Sens. Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul recently passed a bill to strengthen the auditing process. You only don’t trust Deloitte & Touche to do it because you assume that they’re suspect. What evidence do you have that they do anything improper in their audit? Rich and powerful people need to have an accurate audit of the Fed so that they can make decisions about their money. So it’s actually in the interests of everyone that the Fed be properly audited, meaning that there’s a pretty good likelihood that it is, whatever your unevidenced misgivings are.

  67. Brad says:

    This article reads like a very poorly researched pro Rothschild PR campaign.

    Do the research. Here’s a few points that can be refuted in your “article.”

    Media control:
    It’s it Congressional records re: the media take out of the largest most influential newspapers in the U.S. in 1908 when Rothschild front JP Morgan (approx 80% shareholding) bought the papers and sacked the editors and replaced them with their own editors.

    Funding both sides of the walls:
    As for the 1812 Napoleonic wars, the French Rothschilds House funded the French war effort and the House of Rothschild based in London funded the English – it’s in history books, it’s even explained to you if you take a tour of one of their former houses Waddesdon Manor in the Vake of Aylesbury, England.

    Central-bank control:
    As for the Federal Reserve it is privately owned institution. The Bank of England is owned by Bank of England Nominees Ltd. (1977). If it were a truly sovereign bank they would not need to hide the list of shareholders in this company. If “we” as in the people had control of our money supply we wouldn’t need to be paying interest on the money creation + interest Ponzi scheme that they have created. With 30 million British workers and £60 billion Government debt interest bill that equates to £2000 per worker in England. Nice money if you can on it! Of that money 50% is recycled back into the Bank of England and the other 50% goes to HMRC Treasury.

    The issue is and always has been who has control of the central banks and commercial banks: Zionist/NWO/Globalists – with the only independent central banks not under their control being Syria, Cuba, Sudan, N. Korea and Iran.

    I doubt you will post this because it completely undermines the veracity of some of the points you raise in your article.

    • Adolph says:

      Private means “private” Big money, stay out!

    • Hey, I posted it!

      A few rebuttal questions for you:

      “Rothschild front JP Morgan” – citation, please?

      “the French Rothschilds House funded the French war effort and the House of Rothschild based in London funded the English – it’s in history books” – what history books?

      “The Bank of England is owned by Bank of England Nominees Ltd.” – the opposite of this is true, as the BOEN is a dormant investment company with two shareholders, one of which is the Bank of England.

      • Brad says:

        https://skeptoid.com/blog/2014/04/07/busting-some-rothschild-family-facebook-memes/

        I know! Judging from the huge feedback I’m thinking you’ve had to give up your day job?!

        I can’t believe you didn’t look this stuff up before posting. Really dumbfounded when the info is available if you dig deep… if anyone should be putting up citations perhaps it should be you?

        JP Morgan as Rothschild Front:

        Eustace Mullins (pupil of Ezra Pound), I thought this was common knowledge that the Rothschilds had a controlling shareholding of over 80% and used JP Morgan as their front. Other sites have referred to the JP Morgan “front” operation the Rothschilds used: 

        https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=t0Jlp30o0HwC&pg=PA105&lpg=PA105&dq=J.P.+Morgan+had+been+appointed+head+representative+of+the+Rothschild+interests+in+the+United+States&source=bl&ots=fnML7FxAuw&sig=0k0BLTS6xgqJhaWSyYqQ2pNvtKU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi–8Sn_8XKAhWBkRQKHfsxCQYQ6AEINTAD#v=onepage&q=J.P.%20Morgan%20had%20been%20appointed%20head%20representative%20of%20the%20Rothschild%20interests%20in%20the%20United%20States&f=false

        https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hKy3b843nYoC&pg=PA167&lpg=PA167&dq=J.P.+Morgan+had+been+appointed+head+representative+of+the+Rothschild+interests+in+the+United+States&source=bl&ots=9fHnnNHbH1&sig=kJNJjrKeoAKryL9qVdTJegbQW-Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjO7veygMbKAhUL2BoKHdiwAxEQ6AEIODAE#v=onepage&q=J.P.%20Morgan%20had%20been%20appointed%20head%20representative%20of%20the%20Rothschild%20interests%20in%20the%20United%20States&f=false

        http://www.whale.to/b/m_ch5.html

        http://www.moneyteachers.org/Rothschild.connections5.html

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        Funding both sides of the Napoleonic Wars (French Revolution):

        “1815: The five Rothschild brothers work to supply gold to both Wellington’s army (through Nathan in England) and Napoleon’s army (through Jacob in France), and begin their policy of funding both sides in wars. The Rothschilds love wars because they are massive generators of risk free debt.” http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

        One Rothschild family biography mentions a London meeting where an “International Banking Syndicate” decided to pit the American North against the South as part of a “divide and conquer” strategy.  German Chancellor Otto von Bismarck once stated, “The division of the United States into federations of equal force was decided long before the Civil War.  These bankers were afraid that the United States…would upset their financial domination over the world.  The voice of the Rothschilds prevailed.”  Rothschild biographer Derek Wilson says the family was the official European banker to the US government and strong supporters of the Bank of the United States. [17] 
        Family biographer Niall Ferguson notes a “substantial and unexplained gap” in private Rothschild correspondence between 1854-1860.  He says all copies of outgoing letters written by the London Rothschilds during this Civil War period “were destroyed at the orders of successive partners”. [18]
        – See more at: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-freemasons-and-the-house-of-rothschild/25179  

        Source: The House of Rothschild. Niall Ferguson. Viking Press New York 1998 p.28 – See more at: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-freemasons-and-the-house-of-rothschild/25179#sthash.qkXIPar1.dpuf  

        The qualifier as far as funding both sides should be the point that they profited from both sides. Napoleon would eventually threaten the Rothschild extreme usurious money lending scam – he then became a threat. The Rothschild’s international banking houses profited from the build up and the eventual control of the munition plants, the ship-building industry, the mining industry, chemical plants, drug supply depots, steel mills in France and other European countries. 

        “Pawns in the Game” – William Guy Carr – http://www.lovethetruth.com/books/pawns/04.htm
        or “Life of Napoleon” – Sir Walter Scott

        Also interesting to read:

        “Nathan knew how to profit from this situation. The East India Company was trying to sell gold that, of coarse, the government wanted to buy, but the price was so high that officials decided to wait until it dropped. Nathan stepped in and bought up the gold (using some of the Landgraves money as well as his own). He then proceed to raise the price.
        When the officials realized the price wouldn’t drop they bought the gold and Nathan made a great profit. But the deal didn’t stop there. Nathan offered to deliver the gold to Wellington (this was a heavy responsibility because of the French blockade). Hemes went to bat and
        got Rothschild the job. Nathan’s plan was incredible, one biographer said his scheme was ‘comparable to burglary in broad daylight.’ Nathan’s brother, James went to Napoleon’s government and told them that Nathan would be importing gold into France and that the
        British government was upset at the move because it would financially hurt England. Napoleon’s government believed his lie and any French police who might have uncovered the plot were bribed. So Nathan was able to ship the gold to Paris with the approval of both
        the English and French governments. In Paris the gold was exchanged in French banking firms for cash Wellington could use, and then the Rothschild network carried the money into
        Spain as France allowed Nathan to fund the war against itself. Eventually some French officials grew suspicious, but Napoleon ignored their reports (why?). The plan went smoothly even though the same officials secretly watched James Rothschild and his brother
        Carl (who was in on the plot). Wellington eventually defeated Napoleon at Waterloo. The Wellington smuggle was one of the greatest scams in history! In order to better understand
        the Rothschild’s involvement in the defeat of Napoleon we must look at the role played by the Rothschild’s second steppingstone – Metternich. Metternich was the Austrian Minister of
        Foreign Affairs and he led the opposition against Napoleon. ”

        French banks profited.

        https://stopsyjonizmowi.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/bloodlines-of-the-illuminati-2002-fritz-springmeier.pdf
        page 156 

        If you really object with the terminology of “funding both sides”, take it up with the Rothschilds and their appointed Waddesdon Manor National Trust guides!

        You can even see the parallels today as the UK/US (bankers/military industrial complex) flood Middle Eastern countries with weapons supplied to head chopping Jihadis – including using the fake Benghazi Embassy embassy to run weapons from Libya to Syria – a war that was planned by the British (bankers/intelligence services). Google: Roland Dumas + Syria if you don’t or can’t believe it. Media is controlled by… guess who? 

        Look at the Shillary Clinton State Dept private emails that show Gaddafi was taken down for the control of his oil and to stop him introducing a Pan African Gold Backed Dinar – a threat to the Euro/Petrodollar.

        Consider that of the 43,000 Trans-National Corporations 40% of them are controlled by 147 Corporations – 755 of which are financial companies i.e. Rothschilds owned along with other banking dynasties through their ownership of the the Worlds Largest Investment vehicles: Some of the top companies being Barclays, Vanguard, JP Morgan, AXA, Capital Group, Black Rock and the terrorist / drug money laundering HSBC.
        =====

        Bank of England Nominees Ltd

        In my haste to respond I have mixed the order of ownership up. Still there is secrecy about it’s role and shareholder(s) or “the Bank” as they are calling it. The shareholding of BOEN is intended to hold shares on behalf of “Heads of State” and “certain others.” Who? Why won’t they won’t name them? 

        A website claiming everything is above board: http://prosperityuk.com/2011/10/investigating-the-bank-of-england-nominees-limited/

        The point being: What is the BOEN company for – and why are there no material changes year in year out – and who is the “other shareholder.” That could imply a company that owns that share and that, that company could have a myriad of shareholders, eg The Vatican, The Queen, Rothschilds, etc etc who knows whatever it is it ain’t Kosher…) 

        It’s laughable to consider the BofE as a public institution owned by the Government because it says so on the BofE Website. Again why are British people being milked for £2,000 of interest/year if the Government owns the countries Money Supply? (£60bn debt/30m taxpayers – I think the debt interest maybe down to £45bn). Just issue the currency without interest.

        Under FOI requests you can not find out who owns these commercial criminal banking enterprises. Why? National Security. Yes, our security it would seem, as they carry on their financial terrorist crimes against the population… and fund extremist terrorists to gain control / topple other countries Governments in order to gain control of the commodity wealth – see Yugoslavia, (EX CIA Robert Baer confessions), Ukraine, with their support of a Fascist backed Right Sector Coup of a democratically elected leader, and the whole of the Middle East when countries aren’t aligned to Western Banking interests or Israel. Search AmericanTerrorist.com for the map of countries without ISIS attacks.

        Banks fix their accounts/balance sheets al the time. They offshore money all the time. Theirs trillions sitting offshore. The on-shoring of illegal offshore funds that was laundered into property speculation and caused the bubble in the early 00’s is what also caused the Credit Crunch of 2007/8 to explode. With Bank balance sheets so under funded they had no choice but to bring the money back on shore. – See Christopher Story aka Edward Earl of World Currency Reports fame. Sub prime was just the vehicle used that eventually collapsed.

        The idea that anyone would even want to defend these Zionist warmongering psychopaths is beyond me. You should investigate all the claims you have made here.

        Idea: Change your family name back to Bauer? I know, I know, you have no relationship to them!

        • Noah Dillon says:

          Dude, that is an excessively long comment with nothing of value in it at all. It’s just a lot of hot air. It’s great that you know where so much nonsense is written down, but just because you can provide a URL doesn’t mean you’ve got any actual evidence. Throw around the names Ezra Pound (which proves what?) and JP Morgan and Christopher Story and whatever names you like. Still no evidence.

          • Mudguts says:

            You read these Noah?

          • Brad says:

            Noah, your ignorance is only matched by your lack of investigation…

            I think there’s some sand over there —>>
            you can bury your head in it.

            “Throw around the names Ezra Pound (which proves what?)”

            Hilarious…

          • Rob says:

            So how is Ezra Pound relevant?

            I’m fairly sure I could find something that bring something that Sir John Betjeman or one of his circle wrote but simply because hebis a famous poet doesn’t mean he or his associates are saying anything valid.

            What next asking Harrison Ford about space station design?

            But considering Pounds love of fascism I would suggest anything said by him (or those he associated with,) requires more than a pinch of salt when it comes to any statement even vaguely associated with Jewishness, Rothschild’s or banking in general.

            Bit like believing any Jessie Ventura statement that doesn’t involve wrestling

          • Noah Dillon says:

            Great non-answer.

  68. Aw, this was an extremely good post. Spending some time and actual effort to
    produce a top notch article… but what can I say… I procrastinate a whole lot and don’t manage to get anything done.

  69. rick hicks says:

    Of course you would defend them. They constantly speak out about it being too many people in the world. They are definitely for a new world order. The memes you can’t prove right or wrong. Another thing stop calling them jews. They are not Jews they are Jewish. They are Europeans that converted thats it. Now they are definitely a shady family. Some of the things Jacob says tells on himself. You can’t expect to reveal things they want to hide. They are masters of hiding dirt.

  70. Robert Gionis says:

    This article is full of inaccurate statements. The author claims “The entire amount of financial assets held by the population of the earth is a bit less than $200 trillion.” ~ Mike Rothschild.

    He claims the financial assets of the world are a bit less than $200 trillion. However this is absolutely incorrect. The total assets of the U.S. economy is a bit less than $200 trillion, not the world economy. I’ve brought this to Mike Rothschild’s attention, however he has ignored this discrepancy. If he were actually interested in exposing the truth, perhaps he should start with his own false statements. Here are the accurate figures from a reputable source.

    Total Assets of the U.S. Economy $188 Trillion, 13.4xGDP
    May 24, 2009 – Dr. John Rutledge

    I recently wrote about the fact that the forces impacting the U.S. economy’s balance sheet, at about $200 trillion, dominate those affecting GDP (just over $14 trillion) when thinking about interest rates and stock prices. A blog reader wrote to ask me where the $200 trillion figure comes from.

    First, I want to point out that it is revealing that we have to ask the question. Why is it that people know so much about something so small (GDP) but so little about something so big (total assets)? I think it is because since the 1930’s macroeconomics has developed into a discipline concerned almost exclusively with who is spending how much money. Very little attention is paid to the capital base, or balance sheet, that makes it possible to produce the goods and services measured as GDP. A glance at a newspaper or any list of data produced by the government will convince you this is the case.

    The best source of asset market, or balance sheet, information we have today is the document Z1: Flow of Funds of the United States produced after the end of each quarter by the army of economists working at the Federal Reserve Board. http://rutledgecapital.com/2009/05/24/total-assets-of-the-us-economy-188-trillion-134xgdp/

    I’m still waiting for a valid response Mr. Rothschild…

  71. Wayne D. says:

    The Rothschild family is far to complex for you to do an Internet search and come to any reasonable conclusion. It seems you too are relying on the Internet as a source of information. The Rothschild family does control more than you think. Also Germany has issued an international warrant for the arrest of any member of the family. There must be more than what meets the eye. Not picking a side. The truth is… None of us will EVER know. We are way too low on the radars to see what is on the surfaces.

  72. Jacob Rothschild Net Worth is 5 billion according to http://www.therichest.com. According to The Washington Times Mikhail Khodorkovsky tried to pass to Jacob Rothschild the stake in Yukos worth almost $13.5 billion. Why would Khodorkovsky help such a poor Rothschild?

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/03/11/Oligarchs071103.html

  73. Fred B-C says:

    My favorite argument about this bullshit is that they keep on saying that the Jews own the media. Putting aside the massive amount of traditional conservative outlets that are not particularly Jewish, the racists are just charmingly quaint. This is the era of HuffPo, Breitbart, Reddit, Tumblr, “citizen journalism”, BuzzFeed… Tons of the media we read is not some traditional model.

    • Brad says:

      Yes, there’s alt journalism etc and it’s killing the likes of Murdoch’s Fix (Fox) News viewer ratings – yet the majority of voting sheeple rely on MSM to inform them of their bigoted hatred of Muslims. Remember most Americans still believe Iraq was linked to 9-11.

      The point really is that their is a hugely disproportionate number of Jewish people occupying positions of power and influence relative to the size of the Jewish population in any one of a number of countries that exert true power on the world stage. It’s a fact. As to their intentions that’s when the conspiracy nuts take over. Many are anti Zionist.

      Were you aware that every member elected to Congress and the Senate has to swear an oath to support Israel? See: http://leaksource.info/2013/02/18/cynthia-mckinney-every-member-of-us-congress-must-sign-pledge-to-israel/

      You can call it bullshit however bodies like AIPAC and other prominent Jewish advisors were instrumental in pushing for the take down of Iraq in the second Gulf War – and remember PNAC?

      If $4bn of US taxpayers money wasn’t being sent to the apartheid Zionist state of Israel every year I’m sure Palestine would have regained the seized and Israeli occupied land (sorry, “disputed” according to Zionist media) and countries like Libya and Syria would still be intact today.

      If you don’t believe this, then look up the Clinton emails – they reveal Libya was taken down because of oil and gold and the threat to the Euro and Dollar due to Gadaffi’s plan to introduce a gold backed Pan African Dinar.

      That they were forming the Libyan Central Bank at the very beginning of the “civil war” and the planned CIA take down of Gadaffi in the midst of heavy bombardments in Tripoli, should give you an indication as to who is running the show.

      And yet the sheeple still vote for Hillary Clinton.

  74. Mark says:

    So the person debunking Rosthschild myths also has the last name Rothschild? Hm..

    • Noah Dillon says:

      I know. They must be related. I mean, how could someone have the same last name as someone else and not be related, right? Ted Bundy and Al Bundy: murderous cousins. Michael Jackson and Bo Jackson: brothers. Economist Adam Smith and artist Josh Smith: the same person.

  75. Michael says:

    As with all history it is somewhat twisted and distorted by different people over time to suit there needs as it would be to tell stories. But make no mistake the Rothschilds are sick and twisted humans with no morals. All this info is readily available and easy to find. Understand that with any human there is alway someone born who’s normal and innocent so everyone affiliated with the name is not fucked up obviously.

    • Michael says:

      Also this article was posted by a f****g Rothschild so….?

      • Noah Dillon says:

        So everyone with the same last name is obviously related and if anyone with the same last name is rich then you probably are, too, right? Like, why else would someone write for a nonprofit science blog unless they were part of a rich old world family, right?

  76. Steve Rogers says:

    That’s really funny, you seem to be missing all the parts about the funding of Isreal , and the part where the Rothschild’s asked Britain to extend WW1 , on the condition they help establish Isreal as a state, and that the Rothschilds would get America involved.

    It has nothing to do with the fact they are Jewish, you are just crying antisemitism to draw away from the atrocities they have caused. You are a shill, and I hope the money was worth it.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Wow. “Shill,” what a great ad hominem. Very clever. Uh… have you got anything to support those claims? Or any explanation about why, if their agreement was to establish Israel, the Rothschilds aren’t in Israel, why Israel wasn’t established until after the Holocaust, why they would go to Britain when Russia, Germany, and France were doing most of the fighting, why they both wanted a longer war AND American involvement (which helped shorten the war)? It’s not even a good story.

      • Robert Gionis says:

        Well according to the Rothschilds they are in Israel, and they helped develop Israel.

        Rothschild has a long history in Israel and the Rothschild family has played a significant role in the development of the country.
        The connection with the region began as early as 1855 with the creation of a hospital and, later, the Rothschild family helped to fund the building of the Knesset and the Supreme Court. Rothschild also helped establish Israel’s agricultural industry, mineral extraction industries, and the production of glass and wine.
        Today, Rothschild has a fully staffed local office in Israel and our activities are supported by the expertise and contact network of our Head of Israel Office, Doron Gurevitz.
        We provide advice to international clients on their transactions in Israel, and advice to Israeli clients on both domestic and cross-border deals. Our services focus on M&A and equity advisory, as well as debt financing advisory and restructuring. Clients benefit from our local knowledge and contacts, as well as from Rothschild’s unrivalled network of industry sector and product expertise and our exposure to global markets.
        Recent notable M&A assignments in Israel include: Allflex’s $250m acquisition of SCR Engineers, financial advisor to Oaktree on the acquisition of the Israeli water, power and waste management activities of Veolia in Israel and advisor to Matomy Media Group on the strategic partnership and dispsoal of 24.9% of its shares to Groupe Publicis. Recent equity markets transactions include: US IPO of Macrocure, US IPO of Mediwound, financial advisor to Kibbutz Sdot Yam on the disposal of Caesarstone shares and IPO of Enzymotec. https://www.rothschild.com/israel/

      • Robert Gionis says:

        In 1895, Edmond de Rothschild, youngest son of Baron James, visited Palestine for the first time. In the years to come he was to support the founding of a number of Jewish colonies. His interest in the development of the country continued until his death in 1934. https://www.rothschild.com/our_history/1880-1914/

        • Noah Dillon says:

          So you’re basing your claim on the advocacy of one Zionist who died more than a decade before Israel was a state? Why don’t we blame WWI on a genocidal caveman?

          • Robert Gionis says:

            No. I’m quoting the Rothschilds themselfs.It’s not “my claim” it’s their claim.

            “Rothschild has a long history in Israel and the Rothschild family has played a significant role in the development of the country.” https://www.rothschild.com/israel/

          • Robert Gionis says:

            You claimed “Or any explanation about why, if their agreement was to establish Israel, the Rothschilds aren’t in Israel, why Israel wasn’t established until after the Holocaust,”

            So I posted information from the Rothschild’s office in Israel.

            Care to share what you’re basing your claims on???

            “Today, Rothschild has a fully staffed local office in Israel and our activities are supported by the expertise and contact network of our Head of Israel Office, Doron Gurevitz.” https://www.rothschild.com/israel/

    • Steve- given that the money I received for this was zero, it was still worth it, because it’s correct.

  77. Anon says:

    Yeah written by a Rothschild.. So must be as true as the main stream media they control hey?
    Hitler was whisked away safe lived out his days in Argentina and after the war most of his high commanding Nazi officers and Nazi scientists were given jobs in the US.
    So Boo-urns.
    Change your name at least.

    • Paul Russell says:

      I really do not see the point of all this. Confronting these racist fools with truth is a waste of time. It only grants them the acknowledgement they crave and gives them a sense of self-importance. They are trolls who post to get a reaction. So your reaction is what they want. Such people are small people with unimportant unhappy lives and many have some form of psycho-sexual dysfunction and/or Dunning–Kruger. A more useful path is to track them down. All posts come from an IP. All IPs are traceable. Don’t talk to them. Find them. Removing their anonymity is a much more potent tactic.

  78. Robert Gionis says:

    Rothschild has a long association with the Bank of England. In 1825, the Bank was sustained by a large payment by the London house of Rothschild. The Bank of England’s Archive contains over 80,000 ledgers, files and individual records relating to all aspects of the history of the Bank and its work, dating from its foundation in 1694 to the present. The Archive supports the work of the Bank today, and provides facilities for researchers from all over the world. The Bank’s records are of prime importance to economic historians, but its holdings are of interest to social, local, and business historians, architectural specialists, biographers and genealogists. https://www.rothschildarchive.org/archive/links/

  79. Robert Gionis says:

    The Rothschilds are a remarkable pan-European Jewish family

    Taking their name from the house of their 16th century ancestors, “zum roten Schild” (at the sign of the red shield) in Frankfurt’s Jewish ghetto, they became one of the wealthiest and most powerful 19th century dynasties; bankers to monarchs and governments, builders of great houses and collectors of the finest art. Mayer Amschel (1744-1812), who founded the banking business, came from a modest merchant family who set up as a dealer in antique coins before becoming Court Agent to William, the future Elector of Hesse.

    As the business expanded into trading government bonds and textiles, Mayer Amschel drew his five sons into the business, the “five arrows” of the family crest, who went on to establish the family name in London, Paris, Frankfurt, Vienna and Naples. A key figure in the family’s expansion was Mayer Amschel’s third son, Nathan (1777-1836), who set up NM Rothschild and Sons in London, and their financial future was assured when they won the contract to fund the Duke of Wellington’s army during the Napoleonic campaign. In 1822 the brothers were made Barons by the Austrian Emperor. Their coat of arms is quartered with a fist holding the five arrows, symbolizing the brothers and their unity. Their motto, “Concordia, Integritas, Industria” refers to the qualities which lead to their success; unity, integrity and hard work.

    Lord Rothschild’s family supports three philanthropic trusts:The Rothschild Foundation focusses solely on the UK and spans a wide range of charitable activities including the arts, heritage and culture; health care and medical research; social welfare and human rights; housing; conservation and horticulture.

    In Israel, Yad Hanadiv, continues support for Jewish revival in Palestine begun by Baron Edmond de Rothschild in the second half of the 19th century. In addition to its diverse grantmaking, Yad Hanadiv funds the operation of the Ramat Hanadiv Nature Park and Memorial Gardens, and is cooperating with the National Library in planning a state-of-the-art, 21st century National Library for the State of Israel.

    The Rothschild Foundation (Hanadiv) Europe supports initiatives across Europe and continues the family’s philanthropic commitment to Jewish causes. Lord Rothschild serves as our President and Sir Victor Blank is the Chair of Trustees. http://www.rothschildfoundation.eu/history

  80. Robert Gionis says:

    Rothschild’s Global Financial Advisory business is a world leader in the provision of impartial, expert advice to governments, corporations, institutions and individuals.
    With approximately 900 advisers in 40 countries around the world, our scale, reach and local knowledge is focused on supporting clients wherever they need us.
    An unparalleled network of global knowledge is at the heart of our business. We use our collective intellectual capital, specialist sector and product expertise, and wealth of experience to deliver the best long-term solutions for our clients.
    Having advised on more deals than any other adviser in our core markets, we have an unrivalled track record of advising clients on mergers, acquisitions and disposals, strategy, and corporate governance. We are also the market leader in providing independent advice on debt and equity financing, and on how to restructure a business. https://www.rothschild.com/gfa/who_we_are/

  81. Robert Gionis says:

    Rothschild provides strategic, M&A, wealth management and fundraising advice and services to governments, companies and individuals worldwide.
    We are a global financial advisory group which is family-controlled and independent. We have been at the centre of the world’s financial markets for more than 200 years.
    From our historical roots in Europe we have developed a unique global footprint. Today we have full-scale advisory businesses across the world including locally staffed offices in China, Brazil, India, the United States of America, the Middle East and Asia Pacific. https://www.rothschild.com/about_rothschild/

  82. Robert Gionis says:

    Rothschild is one of the top financial advisory firms in the United States, with offices in New York, Washington, and Los Angeles.
    In addition to our strong presence in M&A and financing advisory, we have become one of the premier financial restructuring practices in North America. Rothschild has advised on some of the most high profile and transformational restructuring mandates in recent years, including advising the US government on the restructuring of its motor industry.
    Our seasoned and well-connected senior bankers lead each project from start to finish and have extensive expertise in public and private transactions, both domestic and cross-border. We advise corporations of all sizes, leading private equity houses and government entities.
    Our US teams tap into the broad expertise of Rothschild’s market-leading global financial advisory teams across all industries. Our US clients benefit from our collective intellectual capital as well as from Rothschild’s reputation for fully independent and impartial advice.
    Our recent notable assignments include advising Alibaba Group on its US$25bn IPO on the New York Stock Exchange, Apax $5.9bn Chapter 11 restructuring of Cengage Learning, AMR Corporation (American Airlines) on its Chapter 11 restructuring and Sprint Nextel’s $21.6bn disposal of a 78% stake to Softbank. https://www.rothschild.com/usa/

  83. Robert Gionis says:

    Rothschild’s long history of working with governments dates back to the origins of our firm more than 200 years ago.
    We are widely regarded as the adviser who best understands the needs of governments and the benefits of a discreet, long-term relationship.
    Governments trust the high calibre of our advisory expertise and the impartiality and independence fostered by our pure advisory business model. We have been engaged by many government clients for assistance with a great variety of challenges.
    Rothschild was instrumental in the privatisation programmes of the 1980s in the United Kingdom, which were forerunners of a worldwide trend. Likewise, at the height of the recent global financial crisis, a significant number of governments turned to us for our expert and trusted advice on recapitalising and restructuring a range of stricken industries, including the banking sector in Europe and the automotive industry in the United States.
    Rothschild also assists governments with financial divestments and complex auction processes. We advised the Government of India on its US$22.7 billion auction of 3G and BWA spectrum and, in Australia, we advised the Queensland Government on its US$17.6 billion Asset Sales Programme. https://www.rothschild.com/gfa/our_clients/governments/

  84. Robert Gionis says:

    Rothschild is one of the oldest institutions operating in the London Money Market.
    Our treasury team is focused on providing bespoke deposit, foreign exchange and interest rate hedging services to private, corporate and institutional clients.
    In addition to our client services, we provide liquidity and interest rate risk management to the Rothschild Group. This includes the active management of a portfolio of highly liquid collateral including government securities and central bank deposits. https://www.rothschild.com/banking/treasury/

  85. Robert Gionis says:

    By the time Nathan died in 1836, the Rothschilds were the most successful international bankers of the age.
    For more than a century from 1818, when Nathan in London arranged a £5 million loan to the Prussian government, raising funds for governments throughout the world by the issuing of bonds formed the core of Rothschild business.
    Individual brothers and their descendants added other interests. In France and Austria the Rothschild banks pushed for, built and financed networks of railways. In Vienna, Salomon became interested in engineering and foundries. All became involved with precious metals, and in particular gold.
    In 1840, N M Rothschild & Sons became one of the Bank of England’s bullion brokers. Hard on the heels of the gold rushes of the 19th century, agencies were set up in California and Australia. For a good part of the century, Rothschild, through the acquisition of key mines in Spain, enjoyed a monopoly in mercury, used in the refining of precious metals. And for over a hundred years, from 1852, the London bank operated the Royal Mint Refinery in London, refining and casting for the Bank of England and other international customers. https://www.rothschild.com/our_history/1820-1850/

  86. Robert Gionis says:

    In 1809 Nathan moved his base to the City of London. He took premises at New Court in St Swithin’s Lane – to this day the home of the bank which bears his name. Here he developed banking activities, dealing in bills of exchange and arranging foreign loans. His ‘best business’ came in 1814 when he and his brothers were commissioned by the British government to raise the funding to help Britain and her allies defeat Napoleon.

    Nathan’s increasingly successful business as a banker in London provided a model for his brothers back in Frankfurt. In 1812, James, the youngest, established a banking house in Paris. Salomon left next, in 1820, to settle in Vienna, where the family were already active in Imperial finance. Finally, with the strengthening of Austrian Imperial interests in Italy, Carl set up business in Naples, leaving Amschel, the eldest of the five sons of Mayer Amschel, to head the Frankfurt bank which was continuing to grow in influence. https://www.rothschild.com/our_history/1798-1820/

  87. Robert Gionis says:

    Wanna try to debunk any of that? Haha kinda hard to do when it comes straight from the Rothschild’s own website. https://www.rothschild.com/home/

    Well what do you have to say now Mr Rothschild????

    It’s funny how you stopped commenting once I debunked your claims.

    You claimed “The entire amount of financial assets held by the population of the earth is a bit less than $200 trillion”

    The problem is, the total assets of the U.S. economy are a bit less than $200 trillion, not the world economy. http://rutledgecapital.com/2009/05/24/total-assets-of-the-us-economy-188-trillion-134xgdp/

    I’ve debunked most of your claims with facts you can’t dispute. Perhaps it’s time to correct your article.

    • Robert, I’m not sure you understand how debunking something works. You didn’t refute a single thing I wrote, you just posted huge blocks of text from a publicly available website. That’s not debunking. That’s not anything.

      The Rothschild banking family’s wealth and influence aren’t being questioned. What’s being questioned is that they’re trillionaires who run the world and secretly spawned Hitler. None of this is true – as I demonstrated.

      • Robert Gionis says:

        Mike, I’m not sure you understand how debunking something works. I did refute a single thing you wrote, I just posted the facts from two credible websites. That is debunking. That textbook.

        The US economy is nearly 200 trillion, not the world economy. I posted proof and you ignored it. You responded to this comment. However, I’m still waiting for a valid response on my reply to this comment.

        “The entire amount of financial assets held by the population of the earth is a bit less than $200 trillion.” ~ Mike Rothschild

        Total Assets of the U.S. Economy $188 Trillion, 13.4xGDP
        May 24, 2009 – Dr. John Rutledge http://rutledgecapital.com/2009/05/24/total-assets-of-the-us-economy-188-trillion-134xgdp/

        Global OTC Derivative market figures for 2013… $710 trillion. http://www.bis.org/publ/otc_hy1405.htm

        Simple Definition of debunk
        : to show that something (such as a belief or theory) is not true : to show the falseness of (a story, idea, statement, etc.) http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/debunk

        • Mudguts says:

          I think someone has a web blog hobby.. This never happens in skeptoid blog comments!

          • Robert Gionis says:

            Anybody else notice how Mike Rothschild never has a smarmy come back or witty reply when I grill him on that 200 trillion figure???

            Welcome to debunktion junction haha!

            But then again, he doesn’t seem like the type of person to let things like facts or the truth get in the way of a good story…

          • Weatherwax says:

            Mike’s error on the size of the world’s economy has no impact on the point of the article, that the Rothschilds do not rule the world.

            In addition, your copy/ pasting claims from the Rothschild’s Financial institution’s website, that they are ONE of the largest institutions managing OTHER PEOPLES money in no way leads to your claim that they secretly rule the world.

            When I read through your posts, my initial impression was that you were a Rothschild representative responding to the mistaken belief that this article claimed that the Rothschilds ruled the world. You really need to work on your English communication skills.

            As to why M Rothschild doesn’t engage you in witty repartee, most of us have real jobs and can’t spend all day responding to professional trolls. We don’t collect rubles for sitting in an office in Moscow spreading nonsense.

          • Robert Gionis says:

            “The era of the Rothschilds “controlling the world’s money supply” is long over. There are far more powerful banks around the world, controlling far greater sums of money.” ~ Mike Rothschild

            “The Rothschild banking family’s wealth and influence aren’t being questioned. What’s being questioned is that they’re trillionaires who run the world…” ~ Mike Rothschild

            http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/contradiction
            Full Definition of contradiction
            1
            : act or an instance of contradicting
            2
            a : a proposition, statement, or phrase that asserts or implies both the truth and falsity of something
            b : a statement or phrase whose parts contradict each other
            3
            a : logical incongruity
            b : a situation in which inherent factors, actions, or propositions are inconsistent or contrary to one another

          • Robert Gionis says:

            Weatherwax
            Mike’s error on the size of the world’s economy has alot to do with the impact of this article.

            When I pointed out his mistake. His response was “That website has absolutely no citations backing it.”

            http://www.usdebtclock.org/ does provide the source for every figure. But I went ahead and posted info from a bank and an investment firm that verifies those figures.

            The info posted from the Rothschild’s website actually was copied from three separate websites of theirs. I posted most of that in response other peoples comments, not Mike’s.

            I never once claimed the Rothschild family rules the world. I never claimed they are trillionaires either. I claimed this article is full of inaccurate statements.

            Most of the claims in Mike’s article and most of the comments can be debunked at the Rothschild’s websites I posted.

            Any reputable journalist would do the proper research and cite their sources. Any reputable journalist would start their research at the House of Rothschild. And most of all, any credible journalist would amend an article, or add a correction if they made on obvious mistake.

            According to the Rothschilds

      • Robert Gionis says:

        Those huge blocks of text are called information. That publicly available website is actually several webpages of the Rothschild’s.

        You claim that’s nothing. I claim if one is researching the Rothschild’s history, their publicly published history at their website would be a great place to start.

        I posted most of that in response to the comments of others. In that respect it does debunk alot of claims in the comments section of this article.

        I agree with your view on the Hitler connection. Where do people come up with these ideas??? I also agree 500 trillion is an outlandish figure.

      • Robert Gionis says:

        Ok here is how debunking works. You claim something is fact and provide no proof other than your opinion.

        I post factual information directly from the source that contradicts that opinion.

        It’s clear the Rothschild’s still control the world’s finances.

        It’s also clear you have contradicted yourself…

        “The era of the Rothschilds “controlling the world’s money supply” is long over. There are far more powerful banks around the world, controlling far greater sums of money.” ~ Mike Rothschild

        “The Rothschild banking family’s wealth and influence aren’t being questioned” ~ Mike Rothschild

        Rothschild is one of the top financial advisory firms in the United States, with offices in New York, Washington, and Los Angeles.
        In addition to our strong presence in M&A and financing advisory, we have become one of the premier financial restructuring practices in North America. Rothschild has advised on some of the most high profile and transformational restructuring mandates in recent years, including advising the US government on the restructuring of its motor industry.
        Our seasoned and well-connected senior bankers lead each project from start to finish and have extensive expertise in public and private transactions, both domestic and cross-border. We advise corporations of all sizes, leading private equity houses and government entities.
        Our US teams tap into the broad expertise of Rothschild’s market-leading global financial advisory teams across all industries. Our US clients benefit from our collective intellectual capital as well as from Rothschild’s reputation for fully independent and impartial advice.
        Our recent notable assignments include advising Alibaba Group on its US$25bn IPO on the New York Stock Exchange, Apax $5.9bn Chapter 11 restructuring of Cengage Learning, AMR Corporation (American Airlines) on its Chapter 11 restructuring and Sprint Nextel’s $21.6bn disposal of a 78% stake to Softbank. https://www.rothschild.com/usa/

        Rothschild’s Global Financial Advisory business is a world leader in the provision of impartial, expert advice to governments, corporations, institutions and individuals.
        With approximately 900 advisers in 40 countries around the world, our scale, reach and local knowledge is focused on supporting clients wherever they need us.
        An unparalleled network of global knowledge is at the heart of our business. We use our collective intellectual capital, specialist sector and product expertise, and wealth of experience to deliver the best long-term solutions for our clients. https://www.rothschild.com/gfa/who_we_are/

        Rothschild was instrumental in the privatisation programmes of the 1980s in the United Kingdom, which were forerunners of a worldwide trend. Likewise, at the height of the recent global financial crisis, a significant number of governments turned to us for our expert and trusted advice on recapitalising and restructuring a range of stricken industries, including the banking sector in Europe and the automotive industry in the United States.
        Rothschild also assists governments with financial divestments and complex auction processes. We advised the Government of India on its US$22.7 billion auction of 3G and BWA spectrum and, in Australia, we advised the Queensland Government on its US$17.6 billion Asset Sales Programme. https://www.rothschild.com/gfa/our_clients/governments/

      • Robert Gionis says:

        “While the Rothschilds did invest greatly in the Bank of England during the Napoleonic Wars, the simple reason for this is that a French victory would have been terrible for their financial holdings.” ~ Mike Rothschild

        “Saying the current Rothschilds “own” the Bank of England is like saying Bill Gates owns the Federal Reserve. He doesn’t and they don’t.” ~ Mike Rothschild

        “Rothschild is one of the oldest institutions operating in the London Money Market.
        Our treasury team is focused on providing bespoke deposit, foreign exchange and interest rate hedging services to private, corporate and institutional clients.
        In addition to our client services, we provide liquidity and interest rate risk management to the Rothschild Group. This includes the active management of a portfolio of highly liquid collateral including government securities and central bank deposits.” https://www.rothschild.com/banking/treasury/

      • Robert Gionis says:

        “The entire amount of financial assets held by the population of the earth is a bit less than $200 trillion” ~ Mike Rothschild

        The US economy is nearly 200 trillion, the world economy is much higher. That is common public knowledge. You cannot debunk that you were debunked. That’s why you have avoided commenting about those incorrect figures you offered.

        http://rutledgecapital.com/2009/05/24/total-assets-of-the-us-economy-188-trillion-134xgdp/

        Global OTC Derivative market figures for 2013.

        OTC derivatives markets continued to expand in the second half of 2013. The notional amount of outstanding contracts totaled $710 trillion at end-2013, up from $693 trillion at end-June 2013 and $633 trillion at end-2012.
        http://www.bis.org/publ/otc_hy1405.htm

        Full Definition of debunk
        transitive verb
        : to expose the sham or falseness of
        http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/debunk

      • Robert Gionis says:

        “The entire amount of financial assets held by the population of the earth is a bit less than $200 trillion”

        Total Assets of the U.S. Economy $188 Trillion, 13.4xGDP
        May 24, 2009 – Dr. John Rutledge
        http://rutledgecapital.com/2009/05/24/total-assets-of-the-us-economy-188-trillion-134xgdp/

        OTC derivatives markets continued to expand in the second half of 2013. The notional amount of outstanding contracts totaled $710 trillion at end-2013, up from $693 trillion at end-June 2013 and $633 trillion at end-2012.
        http://www.bis.org/publ/otc_hy1405.htm

        Full Definition of debunk
        transitive verb
        : to expose the sham or falseness of
        http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/debunk

      • Robert Gionis says:

        You claimed “The entire amount of financial assets held by the population of the earth is a bit less than $200 trillion”

        The problem is, the total assets of the U.S. economy are a bit less than $200 trillion, not the world economy. http://rutledgecapital.com/2009/05/24/total-assets-of-the-us-economy-188-trillion-134xgdp/

  88. Robert Gionis says:

    Straight from the House of Rothschild… Debunk that! Haha!

    It appears you’re totally misinformed and your article is full of nonsense. A reputable journalist would correct or retract their mistakes.

    Maybe nobody will read my comments, yet then again, maybe they will.

    It’s called research… you should try it before you fabricate another garbage article.

    Et nunc et semper asinus asinum fricat.

    • mudguts says:

      Latin? WOW!

      • Robert Gionis says:

        “Et nunc et semper asinus asinum fricat.” Translated into English “As now and always, the jackass rubs the jackass.”

        In other words… Historically, ignorant agrees with ignorance.

        • mudguts says:

          I can see from today and over the weeks you still are enjoying this hobby..

          Mike, how is that psychology masters by thesis “Conspiracy or OCD?” going? You clearly have enough anecdotal material after these articles..

          I just hope you didnt do it through an Ivy League university… That would be suspicious!

  89. Robert Gionis says:

    “The era of the Rothschilds “controlling the world’s money supply” is long over. There are far more powerful banks around the world, controlling far greater sums of money.” ~ Mike Rothschild

    “The Rothschild banking family’s wealth and influence aren’t being questioned. What’s being questioned is that they’re trillionaires who run the world…” ~ Mike Rothschild

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/contradiction
    Full Definition of contradiction
    1
    : act or an instance of contradicting
    2
    a : a proposition, statement, or phrase that asserts or implies both the truth and falsity of something
    b : a statement or phrase whose parts contradict each other
    3
    a : logical incongruity
    b : a situation in which inherent factors, actions, or propositions are inconsistent or contrary to one another

  90. Robert Gionis says:

    “The entire amount of financial assets held by the population of the earth is a bit less than $200 trillion” ~ Mike Rothschild

    Total Assets of the U.S. Economy $188 Trillion, 13.4xGDP
    May 24, 2009 – Dr. John Rutledge
    http://rutledgecapital.com/2009/05/24/total-assets-of-the-us-economy-188-trillion-134xgdp/

    OTC derivatives markets continued to expand in the second half of 2013. The notional amount of outstanding contracts totaled $710 trillion at end-2013, up from $693 trillion at end-June 2013 and $633 trillion at end-2012.
    http://www.bis.org/publ/otc_hy1405.htm

    Full Definition of debunk
    transitive verb
    : to expose the sham or falseness of
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/debunk

  91. Adam says:

    We own your news, the media, your oil and your government.”

    No, they don’t. They really don’t.

    Informative. Factual. Brilliant.

  92. mudguts says:

    Has any mention of the Rothschild name come out in the latest offshoring scandal… yet?
    I had to add the word “yet” as I’m dead sure the conspiracists will see this as a red flag being waved at them and Mike may become the 2015-16 “most commented on” Skeptdude..

    (I know.. don’t call me dude)

  93. Jim says:

    “As for Russia, Iran and Syria – who knows? And it’s an arbitrary list, so who cares?”

    What are we here for then? An even dumber article than the conspiracy.. If anything, you add to it as you attack it without any facts or evidence to support your claims! GTFOH

    • Anyone can put anything on a list of things that they made up.

      There are no “Rothschild-owned central banks.” Therefore, the contents of a list of countries that don’t have them are meaningless. It could be a list of types of mustard, and it would have the same veracity as a list of countries.

      • Mudguts says:

        Come on.. you have to give the conspiracists a mark for getting it right over the years..

        How many have they got right again???..

        Maybe Brian and Mike could wrangle a few interviews with the conspiracy psychologists to see where we can learn.

        Only need to see pictures of hearts and lungs to give up smoking..

  94. yh says:

    Dear Author, are you one of the Rothschild family?

    • Noah Dillon says:

      You can see very clearly that his name is Rothschild. This has already been discussed accusingly several times in the comments above. You’ll note that not everyone named Smith is related, not everyone named Jones is in the same family, and not everyone named Rothschild is in the family of wealthy bankers and vintners. Whether his name is Rothschild or not it doesn’t change the fact that the Facebook posts, which are the topic here, are total nonsense.

      • Rae says:

        Yes, but Rothschild is not a common name — such as the names you used in your example (Smith, Jones, ect). The Rothschild “keep it in the family”, if you know what I mean; so it would be uncommon to bear the name and not have any relation at all. Nice try though.

        • Noah Dillon says:

          That’s your reasoning? First: when you say “keep it in the family,” are you referring to incest? If so, why not just say incest? That’s your allegation; just say it. Don’t pussyfoot around like it’s cute or something. You’re accusing someone of incest. Second: how do you know? Third: exactly how common is the name Rothschild? Fourth: how does that automatically mean that a blogger is related to the famous banking family? Unrelated people can still share the same name as a small family, right? Fifth: you haven’t answered the problem of why would a global conspiracy use a volunteer science blog to advance its world domination agenda? Oh, does someone named Rothschild own a major TV network, or a daily newspaper, or radio stations, or one of the major Internet businesses? No? There’s just a blogger who talks about Facebook memes? Must be a diabolical plot to control the masses. Ingenious!

          Nice try though.

  95. Vincent says:

    I’m disappointed that for most of this article you didn’t use citations or reference any points with the level you showed for your final point. If you used that level of research for the rest of the article as you did concerning Hitlers lineage it would lend much more validity to you points, but dismissing things as antisemitic and saying some thing is incorrect “just ’cause” actually makes those points sound like you can’t prove them.

  96. Dave says:

    I believe as far as “war” goes — defining it as combat troops on the ground or even a no-fly zone imposed — of the countries on the list it only applies to North Korea and Hungary. I suppose we could count Cuba with the Bay of Pigs.

  97. Andrew says:

    Why is it that if someone speaks of a Hebrew in a negative way it’s anti Semitic but when speaking about Arabs its not? Both are Semitic ppl. Just saying kind of funny how it’s “racist” when speaking about Hebrews but not when speaking about Arabs.

    • Andrew.
      Semitic comes from a shared linguistic background in a religious context in religious legend, Arab is a indiscriminate term which also lacks clarity and is essentially non descript. Anti-Semitic stems from an 18 century negative statement about people of Jewish decent who refused to assimilate to other cultures they were called Semites. This is distinct implication like any racist term. The origin of the name is not as important as its use, and it has been exclusively used to identify a person of Jewish decent whether or not they participate in the religion. A race statement that has little to do with geography or religious history. Since it is based on a Hebrew history of tribes and language, an Arab would not identify himself as Semitic, and if they agreed to be characterized by Hebrew history would most likely be identified as a hamite tribe from north africa. So from a language standpoint colloquial use supersedes any historical bandying about. Similar to the word, ghetto, which has a very specific colloquial meaning, yet it stems from the name of Italian city which means foundry. Despite it banal origin it has a very different and specific meaning in our culture. Language is more complex than simple categories.

  98. pieter says:

    they have Syria by now i think

  99. Aaron Pressman says:

    The Rockefellers own virtually all of the banks that originally

    owned the Federal Reserve shares in 1913.

    By 1963, Chase Manhattan and Citibank owned 52% of the

    Federal Reserve shares. Both are Rockefeller banks. That is

    control.

    So the other banks are trifling by comparison, except the Bank

    of England.

    Regarding the Bank of Canada:

    “The bank was chartered by and under the Bank of Canada Act on July 3, 1934, as a privately owned corporation. In 1938, the bank was legally designated a federal Crown corporation. The Minister of Finance holds the entire share capital issued by the bank.”

    Not Rothschild.

    • Aaron Pressman says:

      On December 21, 1990, the Supreme Soviet of the BSSR adopted a Resolution declaring the banks’ branches with their establishments, enterprises and organizations located in Belorussia to be the property of the independent state. The establishment of the National Bank was finalized on April 1, 1991.

      No Rothschilds there….

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Actually, the bank that became Chase was founded by Aaron Burr, not a Rockefeller. Its parent company is JP Morgan Chase, now publicly owned and traded on the NYSE. And although I can’t go through their whole life story, as far as I can see, no one on the board of directors or in the executive staff is a Rockefeller.

      The company that became Citibank was founded by a guy named Osgood. Its CEO is a guy named Corbat. A lady named Judith Rodin, one of 16 key leaders at Citigroup, has been the president of the Rockefeller Foundation since 2005, along with a bunch of other boards she sits on. But that’s as close as I could find. And she’s not a Rockefeller, I think, just a professional manager.

      So I don’t know what you mean by “both are Rockefeller banks.” Does temporarily owning or managing a business make it the business of that person? For instance, should Koo Koo Roo, Ford, Chrysler, EV Motors, MGM Grand, and The Will Rogers Follies be called the Iacocca Empire? Should all of your former jobs be called Pressman companies?

      Do you know where I can find a history of all the banks that have owned shares in the Federal Reserve System? I think it’s probably the only fair way to assess the first claim in your comment.

  100. Rob says:

    Ok. Just to be clear. You declare these claims untrue, and everyone is just supposed to believe it? Where is your soucing? Maybe a works sited? Your no researcher, and definitely no disinfo. Keep trying though, maybe snopes could use a coffee gopher sometime.

  101. Todd Murphy says:

    Hello Mike. I’m a 20 year finance manager. From everything I’ve investigated, the Rothschild value is UNKNOWN. The reason is kinda like a corporation hiding money overseas. They don’t want anyone to know their real value. You are reporting on politics as usual. We’re trying to uncover WATERGATE! How? Follow the money. Fake corporations. Interest from all of the countries using the Central Bank goes to a select few that control those banks. That’s were various TRILLION DOLLARS ESTIMATES COME FROM. Why we pay interest to some group, to ALLOW US TO PRINT OUR OWN MONEY, IS BEYOND ME. But most of the world does. Stupid! And a lot of the money goes the the group with the Rothschild, A few Kings, Queen Elizabeth, the dependents of JP Morgan, Vanderbilts, Rockefeller and A few other dependents of the original Jeykl Island crew. I don’t know the actually amounts these people receive on a yearly basis from corporations like our Federal Reserve, but it’s Way, way too much.

  102. Nikki says:

    Beautifull..lol, yes i to got sucked in to the rabbit hole, it it can turn u bats**t insane eventually. Probably a paraniod shcizophrinic

  103. Rae says:

    The Rothschilds are one of several families that control the central banks, they are probably just the most well known or possess the most power, if you’re going to try to devalue “conspiracy theorists” don’t just focus on one detail- The Rockefellers, Morgans, Johnsons, Dupont, Oppenheimers, Goldsmiths and others hold the monopoly on the entire worlds money. The fact that you, yourself, are a Rothschild, comes at know surprise to me that you would try to honor your family name — I am sure there’s lineage there, somewhere. Sure, the stats on these memes may be embellished but the point is that the information is made public, what that person decides to make of this new knowledge is up to them, hopefully they will research, look into who controls this planet and make their own opinions. Conspiracies are theories until they become facts.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      But junk information made public is still just junk information. Here, I’ll show you: the moon is 95% cheese. Now that information is public, and what you decide to make of that knowledge is up to you. Ignore my statistic at your peril. Not only are these claims wrong in their details, they’re also wrong in the broad strokes. They seem to devalue themselves.

      I’d be interested to see you name a conspiracy theory that became a fact.

      • Ghoul-Ash says:

        You mean a conspiracy theory that eventually became accepted fact (since they were facts before they were accepted, as well)… Just one? There was the Dreyfus Affair, Operation Mockingbird, the “incubator baby” testimony of “Nayirah” prior to Gulf War I, CIA involvement with drug running in L.A., the imaginary Gulf of Tonkin incident, the Bohemian Grove meetings complete with the giant owl, the Jekyll Island meeting itself… too many to list.
        There’s also the idea of an international clique that is devoted to a one world government (the New World Order). That was supposed to be a hallmark of identifying the ‘tin-foil hat’ people. People still refuse to accept that even when openly admitted by those such as David Rockefeller:

        “Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure–one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

        It’s a fantastic trick and method of damage control, to deny things until the evidence becomes too great, then you admit it with a chuckle like it’s no big deal and was never really in question in the first place.

        Almost by definition, the more damaging and far-ranging one is, the harder it is to get the information and get it into mainstream acceptance and the longer it takes to information to become public knowledge

        • Despite your obvious inference. The idea that just because the government does attempt to hide things and makes mistakes, it then does not mean that therefore everything they say is automatically a lie. Neither does it automatically mean that every crank idea that rolls down the pike therefore has validity. Several things you have listed is complete nonsense, like the bohemian grove is anything more than rich boy retreat, or the CIA and los Angeles.
          I know that smart people like yourself can be taken in by obvious conspiracy thinking. Anomalies do not equal evidence. Calling something the official story is a weasel word that colors people perception yet has no real meaning. Pointing at the ability to do something doesn’t make it so, and evidence against a conspiracy being called proof of the power and expanse of the conspiracy are people trying to scare you without facts.
          These faulty arguments are all over those things you listed. Just because the Nazi Germany used a fake polish attack to start world war II doesn’t mean that the Germans are currently planning a new world war. These things sound related but they are not. You can’t change reality by saying the “official story” is that the nazi’s were defeated in WWII, therefore the death camps were never closed. Using the phrase- official story is equivalent to saying… I don’t trust authority therefore anything they say is a lie, therefore anything I can imagine is true. Total Illogical thinking. Conversely TO deny a conspiracy theory because the evidence is strongly against it is not accepting a lie it is just the evidence. Finding anomalies is not evidence it is gap in the knowledge, denying evidence as proof of the conspiracy is just changing the narrative to prop up your false belief. Don’t let an intelligent guy like yourself get sucked in by this emotional illogical thinking. Assume you don’t know what happened then look at the evidence. If you start off with the all powerful entity did this as the foundation… you will be wrong much more than you will be right.

  104. selftorture says:

    the us federal reserve is a private instutition. But it’s the exception.

    • Aaron Pressman says:

      Correct. It is owned by US banks and not foreign shareholders. By 1963 Rockefeller had majority controlof the Federal Reserve, just over 50%. They consolidated their control after the crash of 2008 by purchasing and merging with some of the failed banks. Included in the bank bailout, they implemented that the Federal Reserve be paid interest on their holdings they are required to keep in reserve. That amounts to $600 Billion per year the government pays to them in interest. If you read the 2013 book Rockefellerocracy, the author claims that Rockefellers now control 2/3 of the worlds corporations worth an estimated $700 Trillion dollars.

  105. Kayes Sarker says:

    You said central banks are government operated institutions, as like federal reserve. But as a matter of fact, fed is actually greatly influenced by some major private banks including Rothschild owned ones. Also central banking as Fed is great source of profit for the those banks!

  106. Bagerap says:

    The Bank of England is a Private Limited Company, but all the shares are owned by the Government of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. I believe that the nominal “owner” is the Secretary to the Treasury.

  107. Jelani says:

    The information you provided on the Rothschild family is much like how Christians try to convince everyone else that the bible and Christ are real…. Your only proof of “facts” is what you’re able to “dig up” of course your going to hit dead ends especially when someone with so much power doesn’t want you in their buisness. Critical thinking won’t work in this game they are playing with you. They give false thoughts and illusions so convincing you think they can or can’t be true depending on the direction they wish to sway your mind. The notion that they control social media isn’t far fetched tbh if they control media and social networking and such that would explain why you only able to dig up so much info…duh. Who’s gonna let the world know when they’re up to no good? that would make you a horrible criminal. And just like you mentioned how “racist and anti-Semites” post things to make people think this that and the third is the same thing people who know better are saying about this article just cause you posted it and you did “research” doesn’t make it credible just because someone says it’s true doesn’t mean it is the info you found doesn’t make it solid no more than the info the so called racist post no matter how many work cited links it has that info they received from the other site could very well be untrue…now we have everybody running around saying untrue s**t just cause they thought it was credible when in actuality they’re story is bout as true as the books in the bible….not at all…just like they fooled people into religion based off one cultures beliefs is the same way they are able to fool you and make false info appear real cmon sheeple. And just cause he has a career doesn’t mean he’s not capable of multi tasking capitalism is a hell of a drug. Just cause a teacher teaches doesn’t mean they can’t be part time bank robbers in disguise don’t be fooled by what’s told to you or what you prefer to believe

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Wait, so are you saying the absence of evidence is evidence of a conspiracy? Is there a conspiracy to keep everyone from knowing the moon is made of cheese? Or is there just no evidence for that?

      This seems so nihilistic. Nothing is true that doesn’t agree with your preferred conclusion?

    • mudguts says:

      Is this Asia minor Christs (Paulean) or the general community of land based Christians of the 2nd century gospels?

      I hate having to work out who I am reading,,

  108. ryan_sparkles says:

    No matter how much money they actually have,
    no matter what crazy religion cult they’re apart of,
    and no matter how much influence they actually have on the world–
    hoarding that much wealth and contributing to that much poverty is an EVIL and DISGUSTING act.
    The Rothschilds should be ashamed of themselves, and I would love to see their capital punishments.

    • mudguts says:

      Oh.. I can see one of those guys has it real bad… maybe there is a 12 step program for conspiracism-ism

      But Stephen.. building a wall around them?

      • There is no proof against Rothschilds because they hide their crimes and control governments who could only investigate their crimes. That is why we call it conspiracy otherwise they would rest inside already built walls commonly called jails.

        • @ sarcovic
          Who is “we” and if the Rothschild are so darn powerful how come there is page after page of antisemitism on the internet. Shouldn’t they, in their all powerful ivory towers, have developed an algorithm preventing you and others like you from pulling the curtain away from their little sideshow on the web. Shouldn’t you be relegated to secret printing presses hidden in dark caves away from the internet, your cell phones, and Gulp…Satellites! I mean I can see your IP address how come you aren’t hauled away with a black bag over your head????

          Seriously-What your talking about so glibly, requires complete shadow control of everything. Yet how come I can find page after page of conspiracies online. That somehow the all powerful cannot see to even put a dent in. I mean who could stop them by your illogical logic? Grand conspiracies is a human self importance issue. A percentage of the population feels powerless and deals with it by anomaly hunting, minor self delusion, plus confirmation bias.
          Don’t get me wrong I am not going to sway your opinion and I am realistic about that.

          • Through the history of humankind some powerful people wanted to take control over the world. True or false? Why would not Rothschilds do it as well? But they are smart. None of those who has tried to rule the world succeeded in it and most of them lost their lives in the attempt. So would not be better to do it secretly? If so that would be conspiracy. Some people see injustice around the world and try to understand why it happens. I am among those people who accuse Rothschilds. So why am I still alive? Well I believe that the secrecy is their strongest weapon and they do not want to compromise it. Besides, hundred years ago they were more famous than today for what they are doing and no one was able to stop them. They control governments and try hard to control people but they cannot do it. That means we should not give up. More about

          • 🙂
            Funny though, that for some reason they haven’t singled-out your internet post for cleansing by the NSA. They must be sooo all powerful that they no longer care what us ants think of them. You know now that I think about this theory it sounds more and more like a religion. You know like “jews are the devil”. Naaaaa can’t be that, it would make you an antisemitic acolyte and we all know your not that. That would be silly, and I know from your keen perception that you wouldn’t fall prey to any antisemitic propaganda. I mean you’ve seen right through the Rothschild monstrous disinfo campaign. So must be something else…… Perhaps you are a Rothschild trying to sew fear and dissentition in the population ripe for the work camps…. Ya that must be it the pieces all fit. XP

          • Mudguts says:

            maybe if we combined Oil Pulling and Rothschilds memes to a combined post and MILK every conspiracist comment.

            No one has mentioned contrails lately. Is that no longer a beacon for the absurd? I feel silly photographing them if I am never going to have a reason to show stupid pictures of contrails

            I’d sign off with an altie platitude… but that would read patronising.

            So.. Skol!!!

            Or was that beam someone up??

          • On September 9, at the end of my post I enclosed the link to my article “Jacob Rothschild is guilty for the conspiracy against humankind.” Somebody deleted it. Who did it? Why?
            Here I send the link again http://www.sarovic.com/jacob_rothschild_is_guilty.htm

    • Hey Mike had to block the other replies that commentator was degenerating down to offensive Antisemitism. It never ceases to amaze me how much antisemitic commentary flows daily to this posting. What is amazing is how easily they equate your relatively common family name to then mean that you are a member of the conspiracy and therefore all powerful. Because we all know that anyone with the Surname Gates is automatically guilty of forcing windows 10 on me. All the people with the surname Clinton is related to Hillary and anyone with the last name Jefferson must trace that lineage right back to the declaration of independence. I mean really! I know racists are DUM but sheesh!

  109. Benson says:

    No matter if the meme are truth or not the world need’s to make illegal of all fractional reserve bank’s and return to a gold standard currency. Also return all central banks to the public ownership. Then jail all fractional reserve banker’s that have contributed to the past 5 century of financial control.

  110. Wambamthankumaam says:

    central banks make money by debt. Debt of one person is an asset to another. central banks lends made up notes (debt instruments) to governments plus interest. This is how the central banks makes money for their private share holders, aka the rothchilds.

  111. Nigel Bradbury says:

    Crazy conspiracy theories aside, the biggest elephant in the room is “the total worth of the derivatives market was some 600 trillion, and there’s nowhere near enough money in the world to pay that off should the need arise’ – what lunacy is this? Forget the Roschilds – they’re just an irrelevant sideshow it seems….

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Not all of those obligations would ever come due simultaneously, and there are ways for people and institutions to reduce their debts should they be unable to cover large bets in the derivatives markets. It’s possible for the market to be worth $600 T and not have that actually be the amount of money being traded.

  112. japsi says:

    Claiming that Jacob Rothchild’s net worth is only 2bn dollars is absurd. Here is some facts: No Rothchild owns any central bank in the world. But all central banks in every country on the planet, except for North Korea, Iran and Syria, are bound to system of international banking. This system leaves no monetary independence for the government. Call it conspiracy if you want, but the last 3 countries to lose this independence is btw Libya, Irak and Afghanistan. Rothchild family made this system, where money is worth less than the paper its printed on, and thats why they still today are held liable for it. When you write that there is only 200 trillion on the market, you forgot to mention that there is 600 trillion worth of debts. This is possible only since, once again Rothchild, decided that money is only a piece of paper and not bound to gold.
    Don’t believe everything you read online. I dont, including this blog.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      I don’t believe this comment. You didn’t even spell the name correctly. Gold is worth only as much as the market demand, just the same as money. The difference is that rich investors can corner the market on gold. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornering_the_market

      Also: North Korea has its own central bank and is economically interdependent with the rest of the world, as sanctions and its relationship with China clearly demonstrate.

      Libya has a central bank and is economically interdependent with the rest of the world, as its import/export market relationships with Asia and Europe clearly demonstrate.

      Iraq has a central bank and is economically interdependent with the rest of the world, as the 1990s sanctions, the Oil for Food program, and its imports and exports clearly demonstrate.

  113. Ku says:

    Pretty much all you say is, “This is bs”. “And this is bs”. “This is bs, too”. Very frustrating article with a bunch of assumptions as to why others’ assumptions are not true with some facts interspersed throughout to make it feel like it’s real. You are truly an utter amateur in the realm of data, sources, etc. Why the hell would you write this article pretending to be an authority of some sort, I can’t even imagine. Anti-conspiracy people are quite often similar to conspiracy nuts just as religious fanatics can be very similar to some atheists. Good job dabbling in “investigative” writing. Keep beeing a noob, I guess that’s your calling.

    • The piece has links to credible sources throughout. Notably, the memes I debunked have no such sources attached.

      • Jan H says:

        A lot of people here do pick sites made by people that share the same range of ideas as them selves. The poverty in this is that they immediately believe what they read instead of looking further. Just as an example, it might be interesting to see and read what other people with other ideas say or write about it. In other words: listen to the other side. (Audi alteram partem).

        A lot of the conspiracists do blame the others not knowing anything about history. But cannot prove it.

        And for the discussion if a central bank is privately owned or not I see/read not very much that could that points to knowledge of corporate structure. The German central bank (Die deutsche Bundesbank) for example is a legal entity and its shares are owned for 100% by the German state. The Dutch central bank (De Nederlandse Bank) is a so called ‘NV’. A ‘Plc./Inc.) The shares are for the full 100% in the hands of the Dutch Ministry of Finance. The reason why the make it a legal entity is to guarantee a better independent position. These are just two examples of two rich European countries. But it is the same for all central banks. There’s no involvement of the Rothshilds or whatsoever. And on top of that there is no single genuine and official document that proves any involvement of this family.

        • Aaron Pressman says:

          The US Federal Reserve is a little bit different. It was established in 1913 by a number of different banks which are privately owned, not owned by the government. The key is that they are US owned and controlled, not foreign owned banks. By 1963 Rockefellers were the majority owner of the US Federal Reserve. Since then they have consolidated their control. In the legislated bailout after 2008 they got a provision that pays them interest on the money they are holding in reserve. That amounts to $600 billion in interest every year paid by the government. Some of this information is available in the book Rockefellerocracy, available at Amazon since 2013.

          • mudguts says:

            Nice.. like its getting to a stage where people can just say: “I can speak english, I read it in a booook” (manuel, Fawlty towers)

            We are sort of pretty used to the outbursts of conspiracism. We have a world leader of conspiracism duck speak here.

          • There is an organized conspiracy everywhere. The goal is to take control over people. Everyone tries to do it, even children. But only the most powerful people can actually make it. The conspiracy starts from unique culture exposed to the western world which of course, promotes wrong values, through unhealthy food production and health care which primary interest is profit, up to the banks make power over people. Schools and media control what people think, they never mention conspiracy so that people do not believe it exists, including you. That is obvious. And then the conspirators are interested in conquering the rest of the world. Who do you think produced wars in independent countries like Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine? Who might had an interest in it? Who might had the power to do it? If you think it has happened by chance then school and media made you very naive, of course in purpose:-)

  114. Archibald Butler says:

    Are you a troll working for them? It’s 500 billion by the way. Look at Wiki.

    • mudguts says:

      No.. we’ll leave you with that Archie..

      • Lord Byron – Don Juan – written 1819 – 1823

        Who hold the balance of the World? Who reign
        O’er congress, whether royalist or liberal?
        Who rouse the shirtless patriots of Spain?[615]
        (That make old Europe’s journals “squeak and gibber”[616] all)
        Who keep the World, both old and new, in pain
        Or pleasure? Who make politics run glibber all?
        The shade of Buonaparte’s noble daring?–
        Jew Rothschild,[617] and his fellow-Christian, Baring.

  115. Juergen says:

    I thought I saw a doco that stated that Hitler was of Jewish descent on his mothers side. Is there any truth to this?

    • Noah Dillon says:

      It’s unclear. There’s a lot of myth and rumor around his genealogy. But it’s probably not true. Most historical evidence points against it.

  116. Your says:

    They would have to be Jewish for it to be anti semetism.

    They are ashkenazi Jews, or fake Jews.

  117. Robert says:

    Part of this story is correct most of this story is a lie if theres a journalist who has morals and whants the truth and proof to the fact of the Rothschild estate i demand you come get the truth i have the physical paperwork and know where the rest of the paperwork is … dont be subject to a lie !!!

    • Weatherwax says:

      Just out of curiosity, how did you obtain this paperwork?

      • Rob says:

        Funny isn’t it how a random person on the internet claims (in a single run on sentence) to have secret documentation of world changing import, but hasn’t bothered to contact the media, etc…?

        For only there were “investigative journalists” desperately looking for “news” to fill a “24 hour news cycle” it might get out there….

        • Robert Reichert says:

          Ive contacted the fbi , the sheriffs department , state patrol , D.A.s office several attorneys several people anyway do you have any clue what its like when someone gets ahold of that kind of money ? Probably not !!! Hillary little miss Treasury department changing social society #s and the Obamas putting their names on my grandfathers oil wells in kansas judges from Colorado putting names on my inheritance Bush broke ass helping steal what did not belong to him to fill his pockets … this story ive written many times hoping someone wouod open there eyes and stop these people they are bad bad bad bad bad ABANDON Biblical …..

      • Robert Reichert says:

        He was my grandfather and nobody was closer to him then me !!!

  118. How evil of them to say this I’m one soul that never even know they existed when I received my revelation. This is far more complicated then anyone can imagine but if I’m a ROTHCHILD and they are taking advantage and wrenching I think they are murdering us.

  119. Kietsu says:

    For the argument below about whether or not a country always owns it’s central bank: Most banks are privately owned now, actually. I am not sure about in the US but I can speak for Canada specifically because I know that the Canadian people took it to court to change the system. The Bank of Canada used to be owned by the govt, but was privatized and such years back – like most Central Banks worldwide have been by now.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Nope: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank

      Typically, central banks are semi-private, i.e. public-private partnership, to prevent government from meddling in monetary policy. The Bank of Canada is not privatized. The bank is mostly independent, but has some regulatory oversight.

      • Robert Reichert says:

        For now cana DA is not privatized but it was and by the time Trump gets through you going to see some major scrutiny with your parliament figures that are actually based out of england … sorry but i think the whole world is sick of theft from a society thay cant do nothing for themselves but steal common weath and knowledge from everyone else

        • Noah Dillon says:

          I don’t know what you mean by “cana DA is not privatized.” Countries aren’t privatized. I’m not in Canada, I’m in the US. We don’t have a parliament. I don’t know what this stuff about England means or that part at the end about theft, etc. Sorry. It’s just not very clear or specific.

    • Aaron Pressman says:

      http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/canada.php
      Between 1939 and 1974, the government actually did borrow from its own central bank. That made its debt effectively interest-free, since the government owned the bank and got the benefit of the interest. According to figures supplied by Jack Biddell, a former government accountant, the federal debt remained very low, relatively flat, and quite sustainable during those years. (See his chart below.) The government successfully funded major public projects simply on the credit of the nation, including the production of aircraft during and after World War II, education benefits for returning soldiers, family allowances, old age pensions, the Trans-Canada Highway, the St. Lawrence Seaway project, and universal health care for all Canadians.

      The debt shot up only after 1974. That was when the Basel Committee was established by the central-bank Governors of the Group of Ten countries of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), which included Canada. A key objective of the Committee was to maintain “monetary and financial stability.” To achieve that goal, the Committee discouraged borrowing from a nation’s own central bank interest-free, and encouraged borrowing instead from private creditors, all in the name of “maintaining the stability of the currency.”
      The presumption was that borrowing from a central bank with the power to create money on its books would inflate the money supply and prices. Borrowing from private creditors, on the other hand, was considered not to be inflationary, since it involved the recycling of pre-existing money. What the bankers did not reveal, although they had long known it themselves, was that private banks create the money they lend just as public banks do. The difference is simply that a publicly-owned bank returns the interest to the government and the community, while a privately-owned bank siphons the interest into its capital account, to be re-invested at further interest, progressively drawing money out of the productive economy.
      The debt curve that began its exponential rise in 1974 tilted toward the vertical in 1981, when interest rates were raised by the U.S. Federal Reserve to 20%. At 20% compounded annually, debt doubles in under four years. Canadian rates went as high as 22% during that period. Canada has now paid over a trillion Canadian dollars in interest on its federal debt—nearly twice the debt itself. If it had been borrowing from its own bank all along, it could be not only debt-free but sporting a hefty budget surplus today. That is true for other countries as well.
      The Bankers’ Silent Coup
      Why are governments paying private financiers to generate credit they could be issuing themselves, interest-free? According to Professor Carroll Quigley, Bill Clinton’s mentor at Georgetown University, it was all part of a concerted plan by a clique of international financiers. He wrote in Tragedy and Hope in 1964:
      The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations.
      Each central bank . . . sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.
      In December 2011, this charge was echoed in a lawsuit filed in Canadian federal court by two Canadians and a Canadian economic think tank. Constitutional lawyer Rocco Galati filed an action on behalf of William Krehm, Ann Emmett, and COMER (the Committee for Monetary and Economic Reform) to restore the use of the Bank of Canada to its original purpose, including making interest free loans to municipal, provincial and federal governments for “human capital” expenditures (education, health, and other social services) and for infrastructure. The plaintiffs state that since 1974, the Bank of Canada and Canada’s monetary and financial policy have been dictated by private foreign banks and financial interests led by the BIS, the Financial Stability Forum (FSF) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), bypassing the sovereign rule of Canada through its Parliament.
      Today this silent coup has been so well obscured that governments and gamers alike are convinced that the only alternatives for addressing the debt crisis are to raise taxes, slash services, or sell off public assets. We have forgotten that there is another option: cut the debt by borrowing from the government’s own bank, which returns its profits to public coffers. Cutting out interest has been shown to reduce the average cost of public projects by about 40%.

  120. Lesego says:

    I Like how you all in one way or another believe more in what you have read and come on this platform to tell them “I read between the lines better than the next person.”

    I just have a few questions:

    1. If you were 500 trillion dollars rich, would it be hard to cover my tracks?

    2. If the Rothchild’s have been in power of multiple central banks and funding wars, would i be worried by memes posted on facebook?

    3. As the 1% elite, would i not be aware that people are researching our origins or what we really do and when people on the internet try to expose us, we begin a process of misinformation. Information overload to a point where you cannot tell the truth from the fact.

    4. Everyone has a price, right? So who is to say the trusted historians have not been paid to confuse the information that exists by saying a critical part of the information is false.

    All im asking is, if you really ran the world… Had most of the money, governments and controlled public perception, would it really be that easy to figure out your plans or true intentions?

    • Noah Dillon says:

      If they have $500T to cover their tracks then how do you know they’re evil, bank-controlling villains who disguise their plans and true intentions?

      Also: if you ran the world, wouldn’t you eliminate everything that uncovers your horrible secret? If so, then why does this stuff get shared so freely?

      • 200 years ago everyone knew how powerful the Rothschilds were. And they were not popular so that they worked hard to hide themselves. Today let’s say only thousands of people who read old documents are aware of what power they might have and write about it. The Rothschilds are not able to eliminate thousands of people simply because they do not posses tools for such elimination. Also even if they have it that might bring a very bad attention to them, what they certainly would not like. Also I believe they are not killers even though they do not mind if as the side products of their actions millions people die. In short, no matter how smart and powerful the Rothschilds are, they cannot stop the freedom of thoughts and expression. Thanks to the internet the number of people who become aware who the Rothschilds are rises and I believe a day will come when they go down to history like all other imperial attempts.

        • Aaron Pressman says:

          The Rothchilds are only 1 part of the puzzle. They have lost a lot of their power and control over the years. They have been usurped by the Rockefeller empire. “Springboarding from success to success as they consolidated monopolies across every field of human activity, the oiligarchs’ ambitions became even larger. This time, their goal was to consolidate control over the very food supply of the world itself, and once again they would use philanthropy as the cover for their business takeover,” Corbett explains.
           
          The Rockefeller Foundation funded the Green Revolution that led to the introduction of petroleum-based agricultural chemicals, which quickly transformed agriculture, both in the U.S. and abroad.

          President Lyndon Johnson’s “Food for Peace” program actually mandated the use of petroleum-dependent technologies and chemicals by aid recipients, and countries that could not afford it were granted loans from the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.

          The “Gene Revolution” was next, and as noted by Corbett:
          “The players involved in this ‘Gene Revolution’ are almost identical to the players in the Green Revolution, with I.G. Farben offshoots Bayer CropScience and BASF Plant Science mingling with traditional oiligarch associate companies like Dow AgroScience, DuPont Biotechnology and, of course, Monsanto, all funded by the Rockefeller Foundation…”

          “The takeover of education, of medicine, of the monetary system, of the food supply itself, showed that the aim was much greater than a mere oil monopoly: it was the quest to monopolize all aspects of life, to erect the perfect system of control over every aspect of society, every sector from which any threat of competition to their power could emerge… But the oiligarchs are not done yet.

          “Their next project, launched in the late 20th century, is almost too ambitious to be comprehended… It is about the monopolization of life itself.

          “They have spent decades preparing the path for this takeover and marshaled their mind-boggling resources in service of the task. And the vast majority of the world’s population, still playing the shell game that the oiligarchs perfected long ago, are about to fall right into their hands yet again.”

          • Bankers are the last people who lose power and specially if their name is Rothschild. They have developed the means of producing power to its perfection and that causes social problems.

        • Noah Dillon says:

          So they are so powerful they can disguise themselves by not doing anything to disguise themselves because the disguise would bring attention to them even though there are all sorts of people online saying nonsense in an attempt to bring attention to them which in all their great power and wealth they are not able to stop. Is that right? And they’ve disguised themselves so that people won’t know that whatever it is you think they do kills people even though you seem to know about both the disguise and the deaths that they don’t cause? Do you see how many contradictions there are here?

          I mean, it sounds to me like they don’t have any power about this stuff at all. It sounds like the world is just what it is and all this Rothschild stuff is a story with no effect on the world at all, since, as you seem to say, they have no power or they don’t use the power they could have because they don’t want people to know that they’re powerful, which amounts to the same thing: they either don’t have power, or they don’t use power, and power only exists if it’s used.

          • It is quite simple, the Rothschilds control the establishment, media, banks and that gives them power over people. But they cannot control each individual. If someone write against them on the Internet they would not even bother to sue them because even that might bring bad attention. They are extremely smart. The Rothschilds profit in creating or supporting stupid stories like for example the one which accuses them of shutting down the liner plane caring the owners of some patent. Or 9/11 was so much published conspiracy in the media which is impossible to happen without Rothschild’s support. The accusations are so shallow that the stupidest person may see it. And that brings the excellent result to them saying we the Rothschilds are innocent people and must bear injustice just because we are famous.

          • Noah Dillon says:

            But there’s no evidence for any of that. And you seem to be saying that they can control media, and they also can’t control media. And you seem also to be saying that there are accusations against them, which are baseless, and from which they profit by being libelled, is that right? What a great ploy. I wish someone would accuse me of such horrible things, if that’s the result. What you’re saying doesn’t explain away the contradictions I pointed out earlier, it just adds more contradictions.

          • Somebody has to control unanimously biased media. Who that might be? History tells me the Rothschilds have the best chance.
            Theoretically we could get the Rothschilds by investigating big crime. Here is one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXS3vW47mOE. After watching this, the US Prosecutor should by his job description go after Bush. I am so convinced that the investigation would bring the Rothschilds out.

          • Aaron Pressman says:

            The Bush connection would lead directly to Rockefellers door, J.D. was worth a Billion in 1913. Prescott Bush was Rockefellers right hand man, involved in the coup attempt in 1933 exposed by Smedley Butler. He was President of the Union Bank whose activities were frozen for aiding the Nazi war effort and laundering money. He oversaw Alan Dulles (related to Rockefeller by marriage) who was head of the CIA. He personally chose Richard Nixon to run for President. George Sr was head of the Texas CIA during the JFK assassination, and later headed up the CIA. He was involved with Jack Ruby moving guns to Cuba and bringing back drugs using his offshore Oil drilling platforms. During the Bay of Pigs invasion 2 warships were renamed, 1 was Barbara and the other Zapata, the name of his Oil company. He flew to Iran on an SR 71 spyplane delivering money to the Iranians so the hostages would be held until Reagan was inaugurated during the October surprise. Dubya oversaw 911 which covered up an enormous stock fraud by his father which was coming due from the collapse of the Soviet Union. The destruction of Building 7 insured the records of Dubya’s insider trading investigation were destroyed. Dubya’s bailout of the banks after the collapse of 2008 has a provision that the government now pays the Federal reserve interest on funds held in reserve, amounting to some 600 Billion in interest per year. By 1963 Rockefellers had majority control of the federal Reserve and solidified their control after buying out failing banks during the crash of 2008. In all of this there is no direct Bush link to Rothschilds but there is Rockefellers.

          • Noah Dillon says:

            The Soviet Union collapsed more than a decade before the September 11 attacks. So this “Dubya oversaw 911 which covered up an enormous stock fraud by his father which was coming due from the collapse of the Soviet Union” makes no sense. The rest is wrong or irrelevant.

          • Noah Dillon says:

            What? I don’t know how the media are “unanimously biased.” That’s too vague and doesn’t square with reality. Why would the Rothschilds be best to control the media? It would seem it’s because you prefer them as villains, not because you have any evidence. You have a bunch of rumors about them that you believe, and so you assign them starring roles in whatever horrible thing you think could be.

            I have no idea what that video has to do with anything. It’s well known that the Bush administration wanted regime change in several mideast countries. So I guess that no one controlling the media could keep that out of the NY Times, Wall Street Journal, the nightly news, CNN, and so on. But Syria? We never intervened there really. Libya? Overthrown by its own people. Somalia? Impoverished pirate state. Lebanon? Doing OK. Iran? Still hanging out. We got a deal with Iran to end their nuclear program, but that looks like it will end soon. I guess under Bush, by your hypothesis, the Rothschilds wanted to go to war with Iran, but under Obama, the Rothschilds wanted to make a deal with Iran, and now under Trump, it looks like the Rothschilds want brutal sanctions and no deal with Iran. It’s funny how they change their plans with new presidential leadership, as though the presidents and their administrations are making policy decisions.

            If you read the news, too, you find that there’s broad consensus for the deal with Iran that’s about to get scrapped. And there’s broad support for immigration reform and tax and entitlement reform. Nonetheless, partisan gridlock has held up those projects. What do your bogeymen have to say about that?

          • I have no doubt that the Bush connection would lead directly to Rockefeller’s door even though I am not sure everything you wrote is accurate. But I still believe they work together as one entity and the Rothschilds are the bosses.

          • Aaron Pressman says:

            In November 1979, while chairman of the CFR, David Rockefeller became embroiled in an international incident when he and Henry Kissinger, along with John J. McCloy and Rockefeller aides, persuaded President Jimmy Carter through the State Department to admit the Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, into the US for hospital treatment for lymphoma. This action directly precipitated what is known as the Iran hostage crisis and placed Rockefeller under intense media scrutiny (particularly from The New York Times) for the first time in his public life.[5][6] In his book White House Diary, Carter wrote of the affair, “April 9 [1979] David Rockefeller came in, apparently to induce me to let the shah come to the United States. Rockefeller, Kissinger, and Brzezinski seem to be adopting this as a joint project…”

          • Noah Dillon says:

            I have no idea what that means. And the only thing I said was a simplification of what you said: that you claim that the Rothschilds both do and don’t control the world, which is a contradiction.

          • Noah, I found that western media was biased when I watched their reports on the war in my country Yugoslavia. Thanks to the media you do not know why it happened there but also in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, etc. One good contributor to the discussion must understand that somebody profits from it and should try to find out who that might be? Instead of it, you find normal the need of your government for a regime change and aggression in several mid-east countries. That disqualifies you from a serious discussion.

          • Noah Dillon says:

            I “have no idea” why what happened in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Ukraine? The Yugoslav wars? Why do you think you know what I do and don’t know about? I don’t know what “western media” you mean. Are you watching US news channels? Or are you reading US newspapers? Can you say how the Rothschilds profit from the news? These are companies where you can look up who owns them.

            Again, you seem to think you know what I believe: I do not find military intervention and regime change “normal,” or ethically acceptable. But that doesn’t mean recent military campaigns in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, and so on were caused by the Rothschilds, and there’s no evidence for it and a lot of evidence against it, such as what I presented in my previous comment and which you’ve ignored. Your belief that you have special knowledge about what I think doesn’t disqualify anyone from a discussion, but it makes it very difficult to have a conversation when you assign me beliefs that I don’t have and claim that I don’t know about things that I do know about.

            You’ve said that the Rothschilds control “the media,” without offering evidence, but they cannot control people. The media is made of people: editors, producers, reporters, photographers, videographers, sound guys, technicians, designers, managers, programmers, and so on. So if the Rothschilds cannot control any of the people responsible for making newsmedia, then how do they control its output?

          • Sorry Noah, I am not going to discuss the issue with you anymore because you twist the points of discussion too much. It does not make sense.

    • Robert Reichert says:

      No it wouldnt be easy to believe me or in me or what i would do with that kind of money … but now let me ask you a question one man did have that money and one man using several other groups to make decisions worked hard at what he did was the economy so bad in the 60s 70s and 80s ?? It was only in the 90s. Close to his death where some real weird crap started to take place … so my question to you is ,, would you not trust that man too make sure he put in place the person who had heart too run the estate !! He was a great man not an elitists lived as simple of life as possible not even in a castle .. no one for the most part even knew who he was !!

  121. Stephan Larose says:

    If you don’t know how something as mundane as a bank works, why should we take your word for the subject of the Rothschilds? I suggest you watch Moneymasters.

    Banks are not owned by governments. They are privately owned, owned by private banks and their shareholders.

    The stockholders in the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks are the privately owned banks that fall under the Federal Reserve System. These include all national banks (chartered by the federal government) and those state-chartered banks that wish to join and meet certain requirements. About 38 percent of the nation’s more than 8,000 banks are members of the system, and thus own the Fed banks.

    US courts have repeatedly affirmed this

    “Examining the organization and function of the Federal Reserve Banks, and applying the relevant factors, we conclude that the Reserve Banks are not federal instrumentalities for purpose of the FTCA, but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations.”

    It’s difficult to know what’s real or not about the Rothschilds. They were the most powerful banking family and center of power for over a two centuries, but then access to information about them drops off quite dramatically in the 20th century.

    Their speciality WAS setting up and controlling central banks and loaning legally counterfeited debt-based money to taxpayers through the government. Why that highly profitable game plan would change is hard to fathom.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      You don’t seem to know how central banks work. They’re public-private partnerships. They are politically independent but have some limited government oversight, which is why Federal Reserve governors and chairs have to be appointed and approved by the President and Senate.

      It’s not difficult to know about the Rothschilds and information about them actually grew in the 20th Century, just like it did about most other famous, infamous, powerful, or rich people. It’s not hard to find out their genealogy (try doing that 100 years ago), wealth, businesses, scandals, find photos of them, new stories from around the world, books, etc.

      What you’re probably referring to is that it’s hard for lay people to divide real information from junk conspiracy mongering, which gets easier with practice. One great way to practice that is by not dismissing out of hand every piece of information that doesn’t conform to your preferred paranoia about who is controlling you. A lot of people talk about that kind of thing as if it’s empowering, like “wake up,” or whatever, but it’s actually a form of learned helplessness that makes you incapable to making real change in the world and bettering yourself or others. It’s extremely harmful.

      • sszorin says:

        There should be no Rothschilds. That fact would solve the problem of controversy around the name. There should be no Rothschilds, except one who is a pretty good, and honest, historian Joseph Rothschild. [An honest historian is a very rare phenomenon]. But he should be prevented from fathering children.

        • Noah Dillon says:

          I don’t know what that means. You want to kill a bunch of people who happen to share the same name and castrate one guy because he also has that name? I’ve heard that a bunch of different people named Smith have done terrible things throughout history. Should we execute and sterilize all the Smiths?

      • sszorin says:

        Please explain how the Federal Reserve is a “public-private partnership”. When was the last time the people of the United States, through their representatives in the Congress, had the power to issue at least a few batches of banknotes.

        • Noah Dillon says:

          First, the Federal Reserve System is a consortium of 12 Federal Reserve banks and not just one thing. It’s a system, established by the federal government and regulated and audited by an independent auditor, the Government Accountability Office, member banks, and the board of governors. The governors of Federal Reserve banks are appointed by the president and approved by the Senate, just like many administrative positions are.

          This is republicanism: you elect people to manage the state on behalf of its people. You might as well be complaining about why aren’t all the people of the United States allowed to negotiate directly with North Korea about nuclear war. The reason you put technocrats in charge of such systems is because they have a lot of expertise in managing them, whereas the American people don’t, and it’s way less efficient to have to go ask the American people a bunch of complicated questions they don’t know much about in order to make monetary policy.

          How would you like it if the president or a big group of knucklehead voters decided we would be better off printing up a few billion $100 bills? Sounds like a bad idea, though one that’s probably not unlikely, were presidents or the public given more direct control over fiscal policy. Why would you want people to run off banknotes whenever they want? Instead, you’ve got group of technocrats that try to regulate banks and the money supply to help maintain a steady ~2% rate of growth in the economy: not a bubble, not stagnation, not deflation. Just dependable, sustainable 2% growth. You can look this stuff up. The resources below will give you a far clearer picture than I did.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System
          http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve
          https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-the-ideal-gdp-growth-rate-3306017

  122. Danny says:

    I stopped reading at the point where you incorrectly stated that central banks are part of the government and not private institutions.

    This is the US third central bank, the other two weren’t named with a government sounding name and we’re overthrown. That’s why this is called “The Federal Reserve”. However, when congress attempted to question “The Fed” on their finances, the fed responded that they were a private company and as such did not need to disclose any Financials to congress.

  123. David Price says:

    Lucifer’s best trick is making the population beleive he does not exist.

  124. Brian says:

    All I can say about it for now is the families net worth ranges anywhere between1 billion to 700 trillion due to the wide diversity of their intrests according to msn money but I’ll be back to see just how much more you wrote is bs

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Wow. Very interesting. Who came up with that enormously vague audit? Did you realize that range of values is exactly like saying you have a net worth that ranges between one dollar to $700,000?

  125. Leland says:

    9 The reason the International Bankers backed Political Zionism from 1914 to date is explained in another chapter
    dealing with events which led to World War Two. It is sufficient to say here that the International Bankers were
    interested in securing control of the Five Trillion Dollars worth of minerals and oil which had been discovered in
    Palestine by Cunningham-Craig, consulting Geologist to the British Government and others, prior to 1918. These
    geological reports were kept secret. In 1939 Cunningham-Craig was recalled from Canada to make another survey
    in the Middle East. He died under mysterious circumstances immediately after he had completed his task. To-day,
    i.e. 1954, arrangements are being made quietly by the big money people to exploit these resources.
    (“Pawns of the Game” chapter 4 footnote 9

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Uh… But Israel’s oil production is about 5,000 barrels per day. That’s basically zero, and definitely not $5 trillion worth. Did the British Government measure it in dollars, and is that 1918 dollars or 2016 dollars?) So I think you can scratch that hypothesis off the list. Today is not 1954 and those supposedly vast resources don’t ever seem to have been exploited, huh?

    • mudguts says:

      I keep looking for a 200ft dinosaur attacking Tokyo

  126. Darth Parallax Who Wants To Buy A Death Star, And So Do You says:

    Conspiracy Theories are by nature very interesting topics.

    My gut instinct tells me that every Conspiracy, including the conflicting ones, are all true.

    My explanation of how, is that every human being is to a greater or lesser degree greedy, and their actions based on being greedy cause each and every one of them to find ways to partially profit, either massively indirectly, or stupidly openly, from the sum total of human misery caused by the lot of us being general jackasses toward each other.

    If you genuinely wish to alleviate suffering and increase wealth for everyone, you need to get deep in the muck, and from down there it looks darker and less clear and obvious than judging it from the ivory towers. it might not be possible to stop the general pattern that our being jackasses to each other seems to entertain us. and this might well be where money comes from.

    Much of this you will never prove, or be able to prove, unless you happen to find anyone who may have contributed to the problem with a guilty enough conscience to search themselves and ask if they ever did anything wrong.

    What Conspiracies are NOT useful for is for accusing some person or persons or groups other than yourself of being ”everything that’s wrong with the world”, and managing to leave your own sins out of it and justify anything you do against your enemy.

    Am I a Rothschild or not? I think it will help the world more if I assume I should try to not be one of the Banking Lords, but I think it’s safe to assume we somehow all manage to end up in the system somehow, and we all manage to profit from it, whatever we say in protest or defense. There isn’t any, really. I highly doubt anyone has an actual alibi that holds water ALL the way through. When you reach the conclusion that you yourself are somewhat guilty for the state of the world, it sort of changes how you look at Conspiracy Theories.

    They’re still, of course, very interesting and I think we all have a responsibility to try to research and understand them.

  127. Makit Truclear says:

    Are you serious? The federal reserve is definitely privately owned, the US government has no say in policy set by the fed. Congress can and should abolish this treasonous institution that was claimed to have been lawfully ratified as per required by the constitution. Maybe because this treason was and continues to be implemented by congress, only congress is authorized to control the nations money supply and only gold and silver are recognized as money. Ask me not where I get this info., just research it and see just how corrupt the US monetary system is. Congress was never authorized to subcontract out this responsibility given explicitly to it. Nor did the constitution give congress a blank check to spend the nation into bankruptcy. It’s the duty of We The People to stop this lawless usurpation of our nations wealth, allowing it to get this far seems to sadly suggest our failure to keep the constitutional republic form of government created by the founders, meant to end the tax slavery life lived under the king of England’s rule. By the way, Rothschild’s are not jewish in the first place, they are of some freakish European decent. They must be the Caucasians, they certainly are not white! They have given both jewish and white people a bad name! It is difficult getting indisputable evidence about these parasites, they have had a huge hand in writing the historic records and through their control of the mainstream media they suppress what they want and create propaganda to obscure truths from recognition. Then there’s Hollywood, nothing like feature films and the power of suggestion. It was David Scumbag Rockefeller who stated “competition is sin”…they have controlled both sides for a long while! Then there’s the motto of the parasitical Zionist, Rothschild, elitists “through deception though shall make war”. Anyone believing there is nothing to any of this, it’s all some big elaborate conspiracy theory, is an enemy of the people, a huge part of the problem! The perpetuators of lies are far worse than the liar, without them, the lie would not be re-told and would never take hold! Research sh*t before taking it as truth and if you can’t verify the facts, at the very least let that be known and make certain it is known that the facts are unknown! At least that way the next person knows it is not written in stone and needs to be researched. When lies are discovered concerning something of great importance, it should be traced back to its origin, making note of the original perps so you have some targets to take out once the proverbial shit does finally hit the fan. The true enemy will be disguised and many will be in positions with means of wide range broadcasting of communications.

    • Makit Truclear says:

      Yeah it was a rant that is poorly written, however, it is factual in its content. If you dispute anything and can verify, please do! As J.F.K. stated, an error doesn’t become a mistake until you refuse to correct it. We are all victims of fluoridation and the ‘education’ system.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      So you’re saying the Fed is privately owned and the government has no say and it’s controlled by Congress. Sounds like a contradiction to me. Why would anyone ask where you got this nonsense? You don’t have any information about the Rothschilds but you’re certain of their schemes and genealogy? Sounds like more doublethink. You’re saying you have no evidence but you know for sure these are facts? Silly. This research sounds lousy.

    • mudguts says:

      Mike… Mike.. how come I didn’t get an air horn like most here???

  128. Noyfb says:

    This article does not appear 100% trustworthy. You have made a lot of claims without any valid sources to back them up (except for the claim about the Rothschild’s not being related to Hitler). You have claimed that anyone who speaks out against the Rothschild’s is simply “racist” and a “Jew hater”. Accusing the opposite side in an argument of being hateful and/or racist is a very common manipulation tactic to take the focus off of the actual facts.

    Saying things like,
    “No, they don’t. They really don’t.”
    “And it’s an arbitrary list, so who cares?”
    “and should be dismissed without a second thought.”

    These are highly manipulative statements. You seem to be attempting to make the reader feel as though he/she is of a lower intellect than you and should just accept everything you are saying without questioning it.

    Until you present some actual, solid proof for the first 2/3 of your article, I have no reason to take anything you say seriously.

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Actually, he provides links to sources and clear historical explanations. He also does not claim “anyone who speaks out against the Rothschild’s is simply a ‘racist’ and ‘Jew hater'” [sic]. And the contrary side? The evidence? Zip. Conspiracy memes made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. But the author here has done you one better, even if you cover your eyes.

  129. Darren MacKay says:

    Quite frankly, I find some of your remarks very BIAS:
    War is what the U.S. and Britain have THRIVED on for OVER a Centruy.
    Let’s look at some of History:

    Do you know the facts about the Lybian War and what they were “Liberated” from?

    Let’s compare what Lybia Had and What we have:
    and What was Gained by the War:

    “Libya and Libyan “dictator” Muammar Gaddafi:”

    1. Electricity is free for all Libyans.

    2. Loans in Libya are free with 0% interest as banks are state owned.

    3. Homes are considered a human right in Libya – Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died while him, his wife and his mother were still living in a tent.

    4. All newly married people in Libya receive US$ 50,000 by the government to buy their first home to help the new family.

    5. Medical treatment and education are free in Libya. Before Colonel Muammar Gaddafi ruled the country, only 25% of Libyans were literate. Today the figure is around 83%.

    6. If Libyans wanted to take up farming as a career, the government funded people from equipment to seeds, all for free.

    7. The government subsidised 50% of the price of a new car if a Libyan citizen wanted to buy their first car.

    8. Petrol price in Libya is around $0.14 per litre.

    9. Libya has no debt externally and its reserves amounts to $150 billion – now globally frozen.

    10. The Libyan government would fund anyone who got a degree and if they could not get employment, and they would receive income as if they were employed until they got a job.

    11. The sale of Libyan oil is credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens in proportion.

    12. A family would get US $5,000 if they had a new baby to support the childs upbringing.

    13. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs around $0.15.

    14. 25% of Libyans have a university degree.

    Do you still think Colonel Muammar Gaddafi was really a BAD leader??? If so, read on…
    https://soapboxie.com/world-politics/Was-Muammar-Gaddafi-Really-A-Bad-Person
    ________________________________________________________________________

    What was the War Really About?

    “Washington, D.C. – In spite of French-led U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973 creating a no-fly zone over Libya with the express intent of protecting civilians, one of the over 3,000 new Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department on New Year’s Eve, contain damning evidence of Western nations using NATO as a tool to topple Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi. The NATO overthrow was not for the protection of the people, but instead it was to thwart Gaddafi’s attempt to create a gold-backed African currency to compete with the Western central banking monopoly.”
    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/declassified-emails…/…
    ________________________________________________________________________
    Harper’s violation of international law in Libya:

    “In 2011 Ottawa defied UN Security Council Resolutions (UNSCR) 1970 and 1973, which were passed amidst the uprising against Muammar Gaddafi’s four-decade rule in Libya.

    In direct contravention of these legally binding resolutions…”

    http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/yves-engler/2015/08/harpers-violation-international-law-libya
    ________________________________________________________________________
    What was Gained for Libya by the War:

    “Since Colonel Gaddafi’s death in Sirte in October 2011,” the BBC reported recently, “Libya has descended into chaos, with various militias fighting for power.” ISIS has taken control of parts of the country while a government in Tripoli and another in Benghazi claim national authority.

    http://dissidentvoice.org/…/canadas-role-in-the-war-on…/
    ________________________________________________________________________

    How was Africa before Kadaffi:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm6P5sDXs3k
    ________________________________________________________________________
    http://johnpilger.com/videos/breaking-the-silence-truth-and-lies-in-the-war-on-terror

    The War in IRAQ:

    “Opinion polls showed that people of nearly all countries opposed a war without UN mandate and that the view of the United States as a danger to world peace had significantly increased.[7][8] UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan described the war as illegal, saying in a September 2004 interview that it was “not in conformity with the Security Council.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationale_for_the_Iraq_War
    ________________________________________________________________________
    “There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq”
    “1,625 UN and US inspectors spent two years searching 1,700 sites at a cost of more than $1bn. Yesterday they delivered their verdict”:

    “Mr Blair said in Ethiopia that the report showed that “the situation is far more complicated than many thought. Just as I have had to accept that the evidence now shows that there were not stockpiles of actual weapons ready to deploy, I hope others will have the honesty to accept that the report also shows that sanctions were not working. On the contrary Saddam was doing his best to get round those sanctions”.

    “In all, 1,625 US and UN inspectors were working in Iraq for two years – from November 2002 to September 2004 – at a cost of over $1bn. They searched nearly 1,700 sites.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/oct/07/usa.iraq1

    ________________________________________________________________________

    “Iraq War Lies, 13 Years Later”

    “It seems a long time ago, and in a world far, far away, that George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, enthusiastically supported by Tony Blair, went to war with Iraq. Thirteen years later, after voluminous studies and books and wave upon wave of terrible consequences, it would seem there is no doubt that these leaders created a false case for invading Iraq and then utterly mismanaged the occupation.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/08/opinion/iraq-war-lies-13-years-later.html?_r=0

    Do you know about the Opium Wars:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Opium_War

    It would be nice to see our Veterans Compensated for their Injuries, instead of leaving them Homeless/Bankrupt/ Without Medical Care/ and Committing Suicide – for Senceless Wars Created by the Government:
    http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalobserver.com%2F2016%2F01%2F06%2Fnews%2Fleast-2250-veterans-homeless-canada-study-finds&h=lAQHqD3gh

    • Noah Dillon says:

      A lot of this is bogus or misstated. None of it has anything to do with the subject of this post. It’s spam. Thanks for the spam.

  130. Mick says:

    According to your article they own nothing…..hmmm. call me a conspiracy theorist

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Huh. I read this part as meaning that they are actually wealthy, just not as absurdly wealthy as claimed by conspiracy mongers: “The richest living member of the Rothschild family, Benjamin de Rothschild, is estimated to be worth about two billion dollars. Only two Rothschilds, but not Jacob, appear on the Forbes list of richest people in the world – which, of course, has led to a separate conspiracy about Forbes colluding with the family to keep their true wealth quiet. But not so quiet as to keep internet sleuths in the dark, I guess.”

      I guess to you that means they own nothing…?

  131. Paul says:

    Central banks are not controlled by their respective goverments. No way no how buddie . Regardless of who owns them one dosnt have to read very far in any number of financial type news to constantly find reffernces to the central banks needing to maintain anonymity from its government. Good God man by doing your research I would hope you mean you watch and listen to what the repsenitves of the central banks say to our politicians. If you did. You couldn’t walk away from it thinking that this was somehow a federal bank working for the tax payers taking orders from politicians. That all being said go look up G Edward Griffen pls

    • Noah Dillon says:

      Then why does the Federal Reserve System have to have its governors appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate? Why is it audited by Congress? Why does it enforce banking regulations passed by Congress and signed by the president? Are you joking?

      Maybe you should go look up how the Fed and other central banks actually work.

      “Anonymity” means “The quality or state of being unknown or unacknowledged,” which is not the meaning I’m guessing you intended there. Maybe “autonomy”? These aren’t even words: “dont,” “reffernces,” and “repsenitves.”

  132. Rob says:

    The author of this is sooo brainwashed.

  133. Paxman says:

    Evil does need enough money to rule, but money does not rule Evil.

  134. Alex Horst says:

    YEAH……,MAYBE!(=? I MEAN……,I’VE NEVER BEEN THAT STUPID OR GULLIBLE BUT OMD PEOPLE HAVE! I’m sorry if you’re tellin troof!

  135. George Miller says:

    Conspiracy Fact: Rothschild Family owns the Federal Reserve

    In Reality JP Morgan Chase owns 40% to 50% of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (Most important), so BoA Merril Lynch owns some 10%, Citi 10% to 15% and the rest is hold by Wells Fargo and european banking branches.

    And… JP Morgan Chase is not owned by the Rotschilds or Rockefellers, its owned by large mutual and investment fund (up to 30%) Blackrock,Vanguard,Capital Group,Fidelity,NBIM,State Street and Co.

    Today all financial corporations and banke are cross-linked and cross-owned. So owns a japanese bank 20% of Morgan Stanley, while Morgan Stanley owns 10% of a chinese bank.

    To the Argument that the Rotschild Family owns trillions of dollar, why is it not visible in the portfolio sheets of Clearstream,Euroclear or on bank balance sheets. I tell you why, cause these Trillion Dollar estimates are crude anti-semite propaganda, mainly circulated in the late 1940s by the Nazis, regaining Influence in the 90s and 2000s as hate against jews had risen because of the Lebanon War, the Iraq-War and several conflicts in Israel.

    http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnvar/20140929/149161 Look here

    The Rothschild Family never owned shares directly. From 1913 until 1930 the Rothschild Family owned a small portion in the New York Fed through their stakes in some american and european banks.

    You would say: Yes, but …………. they own ….. today.

    Maybe its true that the Rothschild Family accumulated great wealth in the 19th Century, equivalent to some tens of billions today.

    But consider something,in fiat paper markets there is always inflation and hyper-inflation.

    The Rothschild Family lost the greatest portion of their wealth in the 20th century.
    1929 they lost big parts of their global portfolio because of the world financial crisis. 1936 the Nazis took everything from the Rothschilds in Germany, the English Branch was already confronted 1929 with large inflation of their assets. In France the Nazis took everything from the Rothschild Family after they had conquered France and its capital city Paris, where the Rothschild Branch had its seat. After the war the Rothschild Family lost again, because their Bank was nationalized by the french government (Look it up, if you dont believe it).

    So the Rothschild Family is today still enormous rich, like the Fuggers, like the banking families of Naples and Florence, because of the fact, that all these wealthy 17th, 18th 19th banking families invested not everything in paper wealth, but in land+properties and vineyards.

    Wealth 2016:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_%26_Co

    The Rothschild Family controls 49% of Rothschild&Co, other large stakeholders are the Keswick Family (HSBC bank, Jardine Matheson) and Albert Frere (Belgian Industrialist) –> Source Annual Reports Rothschild&Co 2013-2016

    Rothschild&Co has a market cap of $2.4 billion, so the Rothschild are worth half of it alone from the company.

    Rothschild&Co has $52 billion AUM (Assets under Management). You can be sure Evelyn de Rothschild, David de Rothschild and Jacob Rothschild are here invested with a large portion of their “paper wealth” because Rothschild&Co is one of the best asset managers of the world with returns above 5% per year.

    Dont believe in estimates from: The Richest, Celebrity Net Worth, cause its based on conspiracy and rumours

    None of the Rothschild is “single” worth more than $5 billion.

    Use these sources on Forbes:
    https://www.forbes.com/2002/02/28/0228dynasties.html
    https://www.forbes.com/profile/benjamin-de-rothschild

    The largest portion in the Rotschild Family Wealth is land and their political influence and ties to the British Crown through Marriage.

    I would say Jacob Rotschild is one of the most influential bankers of the World since David Rockefeller passed away and dont underestimate the power of the Rothschild Vineyards, they have sales of +$200 million a year and hundert year old wines in their vaults are worth millions today.

    You can say that the combined wealth of the Rothschild Family easy ranges between $20 billion up to $30 billion.

    • The point is rich people has created laws in the last 200 years in the way they fit them best. One of such laws lets the ownership of the companies might not be disclosed. Companies have to pay taxes but the ownership might be secret. That opens various possibilities for hiding power. On the other hand the policy and media in the western world talks with one voice. In this particular moment they all dislike Putin for example. How come there is not one politician or newspaper which might say something nice about Putin in the US? That is because they are all controlled by such a huge power that no one is able to confront it. I cannot find anybody who might have such power beside Rothschilds.

  136. Alexandria Nick says:

    “In this particular moment they all dislike Putin for example. ”

    Yeah, why would the United States dislike Putin? I mean, it isn’t like he’s adversarial, in opposition to virtually every American interest, directly threatened our allies (and the US, really), potentially tampered in our electoral process, and has control over the second most powerful nuclear arsenal around.

    Oh wait, he’s all those things.

    • Said the US media controlled by the Rothschilds:-)

      • ShawnN says:

        Exactly, except the sheeple never get that

      • Alexandria Nick says:

        Oh, how convenient! A version of reality that flies in the face of observable, independently confirmable data!

        Spoiler alert: not everything is spoonfed out of some sort of US controlled media hub beneath the Pentagon. We’re not that competent.

        • ShawnN says:

          Unfortunately, it’s not as Hollywood-ish as that. If you’re simplifying it down to that level then it’s something you will not grasp.

        • Americans live in a dark room not knowing what happens around the world thanks to highly controlled media. You proved it with your post. Putin is not even close to be a bad one dimensional human being as he is portrayed in the US media. If media were free then someone must have said something good about him. Right? That tells me someone controls the US media. Rothschild fit best to me.

  137. XaurreauX says:

    The Jews have traditionally attracted the rage of the worthless.

  138. neutral says:

    Think about my last comment a moment mike…..look around this world and our behaviors…..does it seem more likely or not that a few humans would one day get together and conspire to rule over and control everyone else on this planet of ours ?….If so do you think the wise thing and great strategy would e to tell the rest of the 99% of humans on earth their plan to eventually enslave them in certain thing they will be allowed to do ?…..well perhaps that isnt so true….after all there were those plantation owners who told those negros straight out that they were their slaves and best now do as they say or else…..they tied that method already…Today the strategy has to change and you have to let the slaves believe they actuall have free will……here aristicrat A on your left and aristocrat B on your right…..please choose freely which aristocrat youll choose to rule over you …..and as a last point mike…..For those who do believe that theres a chance there might be such a group of control freaks..who would be the ones ?……it doesnt take a rocket scientist mike to see that the most reasonable suspects would be in part by the men who already control our monetary policies and who prints the money…….which can bring down a country like a rock fallin from the sky……

    • Noah Dillon says:

      People in power for thousands of years have made sure everyone else knows who is in power. It happens in authoritarian regimes all over the world, since the dawn of time. It’s part of how power is established and maintained. If you seem to live in a society that’s free, including the freedom to accuse some British family of controlling the world, then whether they can censor you but don’t or can’t at all is basically irrelevant. If you it walks like freedom and talks like freedom then you are free. How exactly do you think you’re being controlled? Or is this one of those arguments that everyone else is brainwashed and stupid except you, who are so enlightened by Facebook memes?

      • I support neutral which means he is not alone. Tell me one person who supports you? A large number of dictators lost their lives trying to enslave the world and the Rothschilds know that. That is the reason they rule the western world secretly. They take our freedom and our rights. They control us by creating laws, giving jobs to obedient people, they control our thoughts by controlling media, education systems, they actually control every moment in our lives. I know you cannot see it so be it.

      • Neutral Fool says:

        “Or is this one of those arguments that everyone else is brainwashed and stupid except you, who are so enlightened by Facebook memes?”..

        I simply asked some rational questions one might ask…and then pretended in my own mind to be a detective to determine who would be a great suspect if a certain event had or was happening…..If there was a small group of humans who got together and made a plan so their future families would always have domination over planet earth….. who be my most probable suspects using data and logic…..who would be your most probable suspects ?……joe schmo the butcher from florida perhaps ?…..

        • Noah Dillon says:

          Well, not the Rothschilds. They have less wealth and power than a lot of people you could read about in the Wall Street Journal or whatever. Less than, say, Mark Zuckerberg, Saudi and Emirati aristocracy, Russian oligarchs, Warren Buffet, Latin American barons, Chinese businessmen with lucrative advantages provided by the Party elite, and so on. A bunch of hedge fund managers. The Kochs and the Mercers. The Walton family. I mean, there’s a pretty big list I would draw up before I would get down to the Rothschilds. In fact, Fortune Magazine makes a list just like that every year, and it’s filled with super rich people you’ve probably not considered because they’re not the focus of English-language conspiracy blogs, which like to focus on Soros and the Rothschilds.

          Let’s be clear: what you did was not what a detective would do. A detective follows evidence, not conclusions. A detective shows up at a crime scene and looks at specific activity and asks a bunch of skeptical questions to narrow down the scenario to something very likely, to the exclusion of other possibilities, suspects, etc. What you did is you imagined a crime and pinned it on someone because you knew their name, then rationalized backwards to explain your choice. That would be like the detective hearing a rumor about a murder and then arresting his own neighbor because he hates his neighbor, and if his neighbor sucks then his neighbor must be a murderer. It’s ridiculous.

          I mean, you haven’t even considered that there isn’t even evidence for “domination over the planet.” You’ve already assumed that and seek to prosecute either the Rothschilds or Joe Schmo, without even showing evidence that there is an actual dominion. Really, really ridiculous.

          • ShawnN says:

            So you basically went to mainstream sources to prove to us that we’re wrong when they own the mainstream sources, the very ones that you’re trying to prove us wrong with.

          • Noah Dillon says:

            I mentioned Forbes, which prints a list of the wealthiest people in the world, who, despite trying to hide their wealth from tax collectors using foreign accounts and stuff, aren’t unknown or unrecognized. They’re not hidden. Is there something particular about that that you want to dispute? Or are you simply dismissing it because it’s a “mainstream” source. I don’t even know what that means. I’d bet Alex Jones has more viewers than Forbes has subscribers, so maybe he’s actually the mainstream and they’re not, right?

            I don’t see how it matters. The classification seems pretty arbitrary. Maybe if you had a specific problem with that list we could discuss the merits. But just saying “mainstream” doesn’t negate the information.

            And I don’t know what evidence you have that the Rothschilds own Forbes, but your argument seems to hinge on that for some inexplicable reason.

          • Neutral Fool says:

            What you did is you imagined a crime and pinned it on someone because you knew their name, then rationalized backwards to explain your choice. That would be like the detective hearing a rumor about a murder and then arresting his own neighbor because he hates his neighbor, and if his neighbor sucks then his neighbor must be a murderer. It’s ridiculous.

            I mean, you haven’t even considered that there isn’t even evidence for “domination over the planet.” You’ve already assumed that and seek to prosecute either the Rothschild’s or Joe Schmo, without even showing evidence that there is an actual dominion. Really, really ridiculous……
            Hello Dillon…..I thank you for your reply and time…….perhaps we are at a misunderstanding of sorts…First….I don’t recall ever mentioning a “crime”…i said a “event”…..nor did i mention that if there was such a group of humans ….please point out where i’ve said that it would be a crime ?…you’re saying i’m prosecuting and other such words…..its you who seems to believe it would be a “crime” for such a endeavor by the group…..did I every mention that it was either ‘right or wrong ” for such a “event”….or a “crime”..or go as far as to” prosecute” anyone ?…..if i come to a event…until I know for sure the truth everyone is a suspect…i’m sorry…perhaps i didn’t say but the use of my word suspect was simply meaning who was responsible for the event….and everyone stays a suspect till i know the truth if that’s even possible….but some may be more suspicions then others for many various reasons….perhaps now you can reply with the understanding that its just a ‘EVENT” for me at this moment…..no right or wrong or good or bad…..maybe u just assumed my name would let you see that part of me…..have a great day and night Noah….bless you..:}

          • Noah Dillon says:

            How is “world domination” not a crime? When you’re playing detective, as you said, looking for a suspect, as you said, how are we not talking about a crime?

            I don’t know what “event” you mean to imply. Like a concert? Everyone at what event is a suspect for what crime? You still haven’t shown that a crime has occurred. Why are you treating everyone as a suspect when you don’t even have a crime? If I show up at an event, like a concert, I don’t suspect everyone there of anything. Why would I? Again, the people who have the power and money there are pretty conspicuous about showing it.

            I have no assumptions about you based on your name. I don’t know what that means. I’m just responding to what you wrote, which is very confusing.

          • Neutral Fool says:

            I simply asked some rational questions one might ask…and then pretended in my own mind to be a detective to determine who would be a great suspect if a certain event had or was happening…..If there was a small group of humans who got together and made a plan so their future families would always have domination over planet earth….. who be my most probable suspects using data and logic…..who would be your most probable suspects ?……joe schmo the butcher from florida perhaps ?……….’Event”…

          • mudguts says:

            subject verb object

        • ShawnN says:

          There’s quite a few of them, why don’t you just look it up?

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