How to Be a Skeptic and Still Have Friends
Being known as a skeptic is not necessarily good for your social life. Here's how to overcome to difficulties.
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When I first started the Skeptoid podcast, it was anonymous. I didn't give my name at all in the first 5 or 10 episodes. Why? Because I was afraid of offending my friends and family, afraid of becoming known as a hateful, closed-minded skeptic. I knew that skeptical outreach is an important educational task and needs to be done, but at the same time, I had to live with people. I have friends, neighbors, coworkers, and acquaintances. I'd long ago learned to keep my mouth shut when someone started praising the merits of some new paranormal thing. I reasoned that the best way to be a skeptic and a member of society was to broadcast my critical thinking analyses as far and wide as I could with the podcast, while shielding myself inside a safe little bubble of personal anonymity.
As you probably know, that didn't remain the case. My friends and family found out about Skeptoid almost immediately, but since they're great people I didn't really catch much flak for it, and they pretty much knew that I was skeptical anyway. I decided at that point that if I was going to do it at all, I was going to do it all the way. So I re-recorded all the early episodes with my name on them, and put my full name and picture and bio on the web site. In for a penny, in for a pound; so the saying goes.
This doesn't mean that I go out looking for fights. I rarely go out of my way to proactively challenge a friend's belief when I happen to overhear them talking about something paranormal or pseudoscientific, and then only when it's appropriate to do so. Does it irk me when I hear them talking about how scary the ghosts were in last night's episode of Ghost Hunters, or how they're treating their back pain with reiki? Absolutely it does. And now, since they know that I'm "that skeptical guy", frequently they'll come up to me with something. More often than not, they saw on Action News last night that you can run your car on water, or that an old man somewhere is a proven psychic healer, or that an engineer has gone on record saying the Twin Towers were a controlled implosion. Usually they're snickering because they often believe that now they've got me, that now their evidence is irrefutable and they're about to go one-up on the skeptic. They ask me what I think.
And I'm not the only one who gets this. I frequently hear from listeners who find themselves in similar situations. Here's one email I got:
In my experience, I always come off as a "know-it-all jerk" because in conversations, I have ethical issues with just letting them go on in life with misinformation, especially as a scientist. Maybe the real lesson is just "don't talk science with them. let them believe what they want to believe." I just feel so terrible knowing that they're going to go on, and maybe make a poor decision based upon the assumption that what they know is true.
And here's another:
Starting an argument, although productive, is not instrumental in making and keeping friendships, since a lot of people are very happy with their delusions and only become annoyed with someone when their false knowledge is pointed out. How does one go about informing a true believer without alienating them?
So there we have it. The problem: How to be a skeptic, and talk with your friends and coworkers when the subject comes up, without turning people off? Here is the solution.
Focus on where you agree, never on where you disagree. Start by finding common ground. No matter who you're talking to, they have some level of skepticism about something. Ask them, "Isn't there some myth you've heard that you don't necessarily believe?"
They'll answer "Well sure, Bigfoot, space aliens," whatever.
Tell them "I'm skeptical of Bigfoot for the exact same reasons you are. Tell me why you don't believe in Bigfoot?" And now you've got your friend telling you the very reasons you're skeptical of the new claim. The evidence is of poor quality, it's too improbable, whatever it is. Help your friend along. Point out more reasons to be skeptical of Bigfoot. Be familiar with our checklist of 15 warning signs to help you spot pseudoscience from Skeptoid episode 37.
And then, once you have a good list, apply that same reasoning to the new claim. "We agree that part of the reason Bigfoot is suspect is that we have low quality evidence coming from people with dubious credentials. We can also find those same problems with the claim that you can run your car on water. Also, we agree that one reason Bigfoot is improbable is that if it was real, we'd have known about it by now — people have been living in Bigfoot habitat for hundreds of years. We can say that same thing about running your car on water — science has known all about oxyhydrogen and electrolysis for hundreds of years and exploited it many different ways. It wouldn't have to wait for some guy on the Internet to claim to know something that science doesn't."
Feelings are hurt not so much when there is disagreement, but when someone is summarily proclaimed to be wrong. This doesn't just mean telling your friend that he's wrong, it includes telling your friend that the TV Action News is wrong. It's your friend's source, he found it convincing; and when you simply declare it to be wrong without having seen it, you come off as petty and dismissive. Avoid negative language. Avoid saying that anyone is wrong.
"That announcement you heard alerts us to the possibility that this new breakthrough is true, just as the recent Bigfoot news story alerted us that a Bigfoot body might have been found. But science doesn't determine the validity of a theory based on whether or not its proponents have sent out a single press release; an announcement that would be more interesting would be that the test protocols have been published and the experiment is being successfully replicated all over the world."
Find the common ground. "What are you skeptical of? Well, I'm probably skeptical of it for the exact same reason you are."
You can also accept your friend's claim as a great first step, and tell him what else you'd need to see to be convinced. When something's real, it's real; it can be defined, measured, quantified, and replicated by other researchers. When something's only published on the fringe, or reported from only a single source, that doesn't make it wrong yet; but it does mean that it has not yet been replicated by objective scientists following the same protocols.
Just because you can have this conversation in a positive and non-adversarial way doesn't mean you always have to have the conversation. I still find it best to simply keep my mouth shut a lot of the time. A neighbor knocked on my door with their acupuncturist's business card when I was suffering from some pain after one of my volleyball surgeries. That's a kindness, and I thanked them and left it at that. This way the neighbor remains my friend and the door is always open to have the conversation at a more appropriate time.
Spreading critical thinking by engaging in conversation with your acquaintances should be a way to build bridges, not to expose rifts. If you take one thing away from this podcast, it should be that point. Concentrate on where you agree. I've found that this has converted people who used to come to me as an adversary to challenge me with new claims into friends who seek out my opinion on stories that sound fishy to them.
The important first step is to allow youself to become known as a skeptic. Wear the T-shirts and have the books sitting on your desk at the office. When people know that you're the skeptic, they'll come to you when they want to challenge you. And when they come to you, you're not the jerk. Put yourself out there as a skeptic, and wait for the business to come to your door. When it does, handle it positively and show people that they're skeptics too, they just didn't realize it. When you can help someone to understand that they are already themselves a skeptic of something — Bigfoot, aliens, UFOs, celebrity psychics, whatever — your job is half done. It's like judo, use your opponent's strength against him. Help him redirect his own intelligence and existing skepticism towards the subjects where he has not yet thought critically. In this way, you can be a skeptic and still have friends — and, chances are, you'll even have new skeptical friends.
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References & Further Reading
Burgess, G., Burgess, H. "Crafting Effective Persuasive Arguments." Conflict Information Consortium. University of Colorado, 30 Dec. 1998. Web. 25 Aug. 2008. <http://www.colorado.edu/conflict/peace/treatment/usepersn.htm>
Novella, S. "How to Argue." The New England Skeptical Society. The New England Skeptical Society, 1 Mar. 2009. Web. 23 Jan. 2010. <http://www.theness.com/how-to-argue/>
Wilson, R. Don't Get Fooled Again - The Skeptic's Guide to Life. London: Icon Books, 2008.
Reference this article:
Dunning, Brian.
"How to Be a Skeptic and Still Have Friends." Skeptoid Podcast. Skeptoid Media, Inc.,
26 Aug 2008. Web.
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Discuss!
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Remember, you should always read with skepticism the comments of anyone too lame to put their real name & city.
Brian,
You would not believe, (no, I think you would...) how many people I know that just buy into B.S automatically.
What is embarrassing is how many people do not challenge anyone to, what are deemed automatically, as "factual Statements" on any topic.
E.g
I was in a bar and a bunch of us were talking when a co-worker stated “Did you know that Campbellford, Ontario, has the most millionaires per square mile!” Almost with no hesitation everyone bought into this. I asked him where he got his facts from and he stated he could not remember. Yet, the general consensus was this was a statement of fact.
Yikes…………
Joseph, Toronto,Ont
February 15, 2009 10:30pm
Eric, it appears your expertise is in how to lose friends, how could you possibly be an expert in Mona Vie?
Joseph's analogy was correct. Evreyone loves to spread FALSE RUMORS and formulate opinions about things they know NOTHING about. How long did you drink Mona Vie? How many people have you tested, as to the lowering of cholesterol levels? Zero, thats what I thought.
I have actaully had 18 folks drink Mona Vie Pulse for 12 weeks and then go retest their cholesterol, and low in behold all 18 were lower. Imagine that!!!!!!
Eric you might want to turn over a new leaf, and read "How to win friends and influence people". It is then that you will become more happy in life and also more successful. Thats of course assuming you are somewhat happy now, and somewhat successful. I may be way off with that assumption though. Thats for you to decide.
Fred, Ohio
May 06, 2009 7:26am
As someone who is skeptical in a different way than what seems to be discussed here, I will inform you that people get offended not because you're dismantling a belief system, but because you have this attitude that you feel that they don't have the capacity to think for themselves. It's insulting and frustrating. You are blindly following science just as you accuse people who are skeptical in a different way of blindly following their religious beliefs. The two types of evidence you are comparing are SO different that it's impossible for you to claim one is more right than the other. I'm not here to "challenge" you, but rather give you more insight to understanding how to approach people who believe differently than you. I'm skeptical of a lot of things, SCIENCE included and for various valid and educated reasons. It doesn't make me incapable of evaluating things on my own. Blindly believing in what people are telling you, in any instance, is not a good idea. I respect that you're a scientist. But there are certain things, I'm sure, that you're not questioning that perhaps you should.
Elle, Chapel Hill
January 11, 2010 7:13am
Dear Elle,
How should we take that? I don't mean this as an attack, but how would you feel if someone said what you just did to you? Obviously you have strong convictions, but I think you might have missed a good chunk of the podcast if you honestly believe that the attitude is of 'you can't think for yourself'. The attitude is clearly, 'you're human and making a mistake'.
You characterize trust in science as 'blindly believing'. Not only is that simply wrong as there is much debate in science about validation, but it is insulting for the exact same reasons you cite.
I don't believe Mr Dunning is a scientist, and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm mistaken. Being a scientist doesn't actually mean much, as is discussed in another podcast. Trust is not belief. Science only asks for your eyes, not your belief. Sorry that I can't remember who said that first.
Brandon, Falconer NY
March 03, 2010 6:50pm
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Thank you for reiterating that skeptics do not need to resort to the tactics (ironically) of door-to-door missionaries. I played this podcast for my friend who recently brought a family member to tears by calling her attention to the improbability of God. He is a newly converted atheist, and many such converts forget that religious deprogramming takes time and sensitivity (IE don't bring it up the day of their savior's birth). He has learned his lesson
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. ~Aristotle
Nora Lee, Medicine Hat, Alberta
January 04, 2009 12:14pm