Fire in the Sky: A Real UFO Abduction?
What evidence is there that Travis Walton was abducted for 5 days from an Arizona forest in 1975?
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By Brian Dunning, Skeptoid Podcast
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94 , April 01, 2008
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Take cover: The UFO's are coming out tonight to capture us with light beams and whisk us away to their planet for medical experiments. Today we're going to cast our skeptical eye upon the Travis Walton UFO abduction case, better known by the title of the movie made about it: Fire in the Sky. Among many UFO proponents, this case is considered among the most compelling, because of the number of corroborating eyewitnesses. Let's take a look, and see what happened.
In 1975, Travis Walton was a rural Arizona teenager working for his buddy (and eventual brother-in-law) Mike Rogers. Mike had a forest service contract to do odd jobs in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest, and this particular job was to clear brush from a 1200 acre parcel. Travis, Mike, and five buddies spent the day working, and reported the adventure of a lifetime as they drove home along a remote forest road that evening. A small silvery disk shaped UFO, about 20 feet across, came floating along. Mike stopped the truck and they watched for a few minutes. Travis thought it was pretty cool and jumped out of the truck. He ran toward it for a better view, when suddenly a blue beam of light from the UFO struck him, lifted him a few feet into the air, and while his buddies watched in terror, he was tossed like a rag doll and thrown backward into the ground on his shoulder. Mike floored it and they got the hell out of there. A few minutes later, they decided this was perhaps not the most heroic and loyal of actions, so they went back. The UFO was gone. They searched for Travis for 20 minutes, but found nothing.
Once back to town they reported the story to police, who were more than a little skeptical. Upon hearing the news, Travis' older brother Duane telephoned a UFO group in Phoenix called Ground Saucer Watch, who advised him that if Travis ever returned, to take a urine sample and bring him to Phoenix immediately for a medical exam. After a few fruitless days of searching, Travis and Duane's mother instructed that the search be called off, which the police found a little strange.
The sheriff was not very pleased, and asked Mike and his crew to take a lie detector test. They all did, and all passed, except for one crew member whose results were inconclusive. This test was administered by an examiner named Cy Gilson, who was destined to return to the story almost 20 years later.
Five days after the abduction, Travis' brother-in-law Grant Neff said he received a midnight phone call from Travis asking him to come pick him up at a pay phone outside a gas station. Neff and Duane found Travis there, brought him home, but did not notify the police. Instead, they drove to Phoenix in the morning, to meet with the doctor promised by Ground Saucer Watch. Duane was upset to discover that the doctor, Lester Steward, turned out not to be a medical doctor at all, but a hypnotherapist.
Police were a little annoyed that they only learned of Travis' return through the mass media several days later: Neither Duane nor Mike had informed them. Still suspecting either foul play or a criminal hoax, police checked out the phone booth story. They found that the phone company did confirm the Neff home had received a call from the phone booth around midnight, but that none of the fingerprints on the phone were Travis Walton's. They found other problems too. While other people were out searching for Travis, Duane and Mike spent most of their time giving interviews to UFO investigators. Among the taped interviews that the investigators shared with the police were two interesting stories. Mike stated that he was delinquent on his forest service contract, and said he hoped Travis' disappearance would alleviate the situation. Duane said that he and Travis were lifelong UFO buffs, that they frequently saw them, and that they had recently discussed what to do if one of them were ever abducted.
There was one additional significant player in this cast of characters: The National Enquirer tabloid newspaper, which had a long-standing $100,000 prize offered for proof that UFOs were extraterrestrial. The Enquirer advised the Waltons that if they could pass a lie detector test, they might qualify for a large payment. Travis and Duane were not very keen on this idea, so the Enquirer agreed to keep the results secret should they not pass. The Waltons agreed. The Enquirer engaged an examiner named McCarthy, who, unfortunately, described Travis and Duane's results as "the plainest case of lying he had seen in 20 years." Duane was heard shouting that "he'd kill the son of a bitch." As agreed, the Enquirer did not publish the failed examination.
The local UFO investigators were not convinced it was a deception, however, and so they arranged a third polygraph, this time by an examiner named Pfeifer. Pfeifer reported the results as inconclusive, but the UFO group announced to the press that the results were positive and confirmed that the Waltons' story was true. This is also the examination that Travis states that he passed in his book. In later years, both of the other examiners (Gilson and McCarthy) studied the results and agreed with Pfeifer that they were inconclusive.
And that's about the point where the story fizzled out. Travis got a book deal out of it, called The Walton Experience, and made some money. This book is widely believed, but never proven, to have actually been ghostwritten by Jerome Clark, the editor of the International UFO Reporter. It's not clear whatever happened with Mike's forest service contract or whether Duane ever got any money out of the National Enquirer.
A lot of the information about the case, including the police suspicions and the Enquirer's suppressed polygraph test, was uncovered by Phillip Klass, the late full-time UFO investigator from CSICOP, now known as the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry. Apparently feeling the heat, Mike Rogers proposed a new round of polygraphs for everyone to settle the matter, under an arrangement in which if they passed, Phillip Klass would pay for the exams; and if they failed, the UFO group would pay for them. But the offer wasn't as fair as it appeared. It was only valid if Klass agreed to one particular examiner: A guy from San Diego who gave polygraph tests to plants to prove that they have feelings too.
Some 18 years later Travis' book was made into a movie called Fire in the Sky, which was greatly fictionalized because the studio felt Travis' own account wasn't deemed interesting enough. As part of the publicity for the movie, the studio arranged for Cy Gilson — the polygraph examiner who had originally passed Mike Rogers and the crew — to test Travis, Mike, and one of the crew again. Not surprisingly, they all passed with flying colors. But then a new face appeared on the scene, whose identity has never been known but whom Klass called simply X. Mr. X telephoned Travis and claimed to be a military intelligence operative who happened to be hunting nearby on that day in 1975. The studio had Cy Gilson test Mr. X. The only report of Mr. X's polygraph results come from the most recent edition of Travis' book, wherein he claims that Mr. X was found to be truthful about what he had seen that day, but that he was lying about being a military intelligence operative. Travis opined that Mr. X may have been hired by Phillip Klass to gain popular credibility and then publicly announce that the whole thing was a hoax, a baseless charge denied by Klass. Another possibility is that Mr. X was simply some kook looking for publicity.
So that's about the size of it. What does a skeptical analysis of the Travis Walton episode tell us? Jerome Clark, the UFO editor, has said "After more than two decades, Walton's credibility survives intact. No shred of evidence yet brought forth against it withstands skeptical scrutiny." Well, this would be true, except that there simply isn't any evidence either way. Instead, there is a gaping lack of evidence. There were no injuries to Travis' shoulder from his violent throw in the blue light beam, there were no disturbances to the pine needles on the forest floor where it all happened, and the medical exams revealed nothing to indicate any trauma or malnutrition from his missing five days. Travis and his crew have had to rely only on polygraph tests, and then only on the cherrypicked positive results, ignoring the negative results. There is just as much polygraph evidence against the Walton case as there is supporting it. This self-contradictory nature is the reason why polygraph evidence is not legally admissible in court: Speaking strictly scientifically, it doesn't tell us anything.
The few bits and pieces of physical, testable evidence that Travis' story would have produced, if true, were never present. To summarize, there is, and never has been, any proof that anything ever happened. The far more plausible explanation, that of a youthful moneymaking or attention-getting scheme by a couple of UFO enthusiasts, has worked out well. To critically analyze a far-out, incredible story like an extraterrestrial abduction, the first request we make is to show us any evidence. And, at this first hurdle, the Travis Walton story has failed completely.
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References & Further Reading
AP. "5 of 6 Pass Test In Saucer Mystery." Arizona Daily Sun. 12 Nov. 1975, Volume 30, Number 62: 9.
Klass, Philip J. UFOs: The Public Deceived. Amherst, New York: Prometheus Books, 1983. 133-136,161-221.
Sheaffer, R. "UFOs Sink Mir into the Ocean while the Alien Choir Sings On." Skeptical Inquirer. 1 Jul. 2001, Volume 25, Number 4: 20.
United States Congress. Scientific Validity of Polygraph Testing: A Research Review and Evaluation. Washington, DC: Congress of the U.S., Office of Technology Assessment, 1983.
Walton, T. Fire in the Sky: The Walton Experience. New York: Berkley Pub. Corp., 1978.
Reference this article:
Dunning, Brian.
"Fire in the Sky: A Real UFO Abduction?" Skeptoid Podcast. Skeptoid Media, Inc.,
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Remember, you should always read with skepticism the comments of anyone too lame to put their real name & city.
I am a huge believer!! I truly believe this story! UFO's are real and I believe we will sooner than later be seeing or meeting with others from another planet the question is, when? I watched the "Fire in the sky movie" it gave me chills... I would recommend "The fourth kind" to all believers, that is an incredible movie, it has real documentary footage, it's on an abduction in Nome, Alaska. Nome, Alaske has the most dissapearances & the goverment knows the truth & won't say anything. There is also a book about a Roswell, New Mexico UFO incident, its incredible also. Aliens are super real to me!! UFO's are everywhere!!
Marquez Family, Denver, CO.
September 03, 2011 11:42pm
Any 'REAL' researcher is looking for the truth, as I do. These abductions are happening regularly around the globe. The alien hybridization program is in its final stages now I believe. We really don't stand a chance against them. They know us better than we know ourselves and can control anyone's mind they need to. Do you doubt this.!!??? Better start studying the better researchers books out there. There are several no BS books on the subject. Hypnosis, when used properly, is an excellent way for researchers to get a handle on what is going on in the alien mind. I can say one thing for certain; we will be taken over an completely controlled very soon. Most humans will be exterminated. Perhaps a few million selected humans will be used for continued hybridization purposes. Of these, many will be current abductees as they know their worth. And finally, YES, it is scary stuff..!!!
Richard Wander, Rhinebeck, NY
September 14, 2011 7:24am
First of all, the Fourth Kind is faked. Universal got busted trying to plant fake obits.
Secondly, it's weird b/c I just read about the Area 51 caller on the Art Bell show the other day and RW from NY comments in a similar vein. I sort of felt like the caller was actually nuts and not revealing anything. It's just like all of these other people predicting the end of the world - let's just wait and see what happens.
Anyway, part of me - the little boy, I guess, would like to believe that there are strange and mysterious parts left in our world, but as I get older I think, probably not. Meh.
Mike, State College, PA
September 29, 2011 12:16pm
My Favourite Martini...
The Northern Territory local newspaper, when it is not reporting the latest crocodile story or beer drinking record, does instead give much typeface to the UFO 'phenomenon' that is terrorising the Australian Outback. Sheer and utter nonsense, but newspapers want to sell issues so they give ear to the nitwits who make up these 'sightings'....and don't get me started on the photos and videos taken of these objects...anyone with a video camera and a big enough backyard could do the same thing.
I've have been an amateur astronomer for many a year and so often do I stare up at the sky day and night that I wonder, 'When is it going to be my turn to see a UFO?"
I have never in my life seen anything in the sky that I could not find an explanation for, once a little thought and some common sense was employed....'movie of the week' offers not-withstanding.
John Blackhall, Wonthaggi
January 26, 2012 1:57am
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I can tell you, before I lived here, I wasn't a huge believer. But I've been here a long time now and seen lights I can't explain. Lots of other people have seen and continue to see these incredible lights where none should be. UFOs are unidentified flying objects, and I've surely them.
M, Outside Phx, AZ
August 16, 2011 5:24pm