Why Would Bill Gates Want to Kill One Billion People?

Viral video aggregator Upworthy has been in the news a lot lately, mostly for their meteoric rise in popularity and maddening-yet-effective headline writing style. One element of the site that didn’t get much press, however, was an announcement they made over Facebook on November 12. The post proclaimed:

One of the reasons we started on this social merry-go-round was to get important ideas out there that people rarely talk about. So we are getting in cahoots with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and launching a global health and poverty section.

This they did, kicking off an area of their site called “All 7 Billion” which spotlighted videos related to poverty, sustainability and health care in the developing world. What nobody at Upworthy seemed to take into account was the loathing for the Gates Foundation among various pro-woo, anti-science fringe movements. And the comments left by these people, which numbered almost a thousand in total, were scathing:

Need to find another partner if you want my support……..Gates Foundation owns 1,000,000 shares of Monsanto who looks not only control the world’s food supply and poison everyone as they do it, the do their best to ruin any competition from sustainable growth and organic farmers.

While you’re partnering with them maybe you could ask them why they support toxic GMO foods.

Bill accidentally (cough) sterilized thousands with his generous donation of vaccines (contaminated with sterility compounds), while giving a TED presentation that said “in order to cut greenhouse gases, we need to lower population, and thanks to vaccines, we should be able to lower the earth’s population by at least 10%”…

He’s busy vaccinating and euthanizing children in poor countries instead of caring for and feeding them … Sad day for Upworthy.

I do not agree what the Gates foundation is doing to public education. Specifically the Common Core crap. What does he actually know about education anyway?

The Nazi Eugenicist Gates Foundation , Bilderberg Billy Gates ???!! Pushing deadly vaccines instead of food Gates foundation ??? Jeez, you just lost all credibility there…

And on and on it goes. So is Bill Gates really a Monsanto-owning, eugenics-loving, anti-education monster who wants to cull the population through poisoned vaccines? Or is he a wealthy man trying to use his fortune do some good in the world in a way that angers people who see conspiracy around every corner?

CLAIM: Bill Gates owns part of/most of/all of Monsanto and won’t answer questions about it. As with anything related to Monsanto, it’s hard to separate fact from hysterics. The short version of the truth here is that in 2010, according to their legally-required public tax return, the Foundation Trust purchased 500,000 shares of Monsanto, worth $34 million. These shares were sold in 2011 and as of their 2012 filing, the Foundation doesn’t own a single share of Monsanto. As it was, the investment was a tiny portion of their holdings, never enough to make a significant impact in either organization.

As to why they bought the stock in 2010, why wouldn’t they? The Foundation has a massive portfolio of investments. Just their list of corporate stocks owned in 2011 runs for 19 pages. Given that the Foundation has an interest in both decreasing poverty and increasing their overall endowment, and Monsanto stock is a strong performer, their investment isn’t surprising at all. The Foundation has a policy of not commenting on individual investments, so the fact that they won’t discuss this particular one also isn’t surprising.

Bill Gates...vaccines...UN...OPEN YOUR EYES!!! (guardian.co.uk)

Bill Gates…vaccines…UN…OPEN YOUR EYES!!! (guardian.co.uk)

CLAIM: The Gates Foundation supports toxic GMO’s. It’s true that the Foundation has made a major commitment to agricultural development, particularly in poverty-stricken countries. One particular method they’re using to accomplish this is through the research and promotion of genetically modified crops. They’ve invested heavily in numerous different GMO initiatives, including basic science research, virus resistant cassava and “golden rice,” a vitamin-loaded crop that can reduce malnutrition and infant blindness.

And remember, when it comes to children dying, the fewer, the better. The harm of GMO crops has never been proven to exist, but the people being helped by the Foundation’s backing of this work certainly do – hundreds of millions around the world. The Foundation’s efforts could lift these people out hunger and into better lives. Of course, the vast majority of the objections to the Foundation’s investments in GMO’s come from activists who have never had to worry about where their next meal is going to come from. As I’ve said many times, it’s easier to March Against Monsanto when your belly is full.

CLAIM: The Gates Foundation supports deadly vaccines that kill people. Three for three on claims that induce hysteria among certain portions of the internet. First of all, let’s sweep away any speculation that supporting vaccination is a bad thing. Despite one’s personal opinion, vaccines save lives. Mommy instinct and Google University might not agree with that, but decades of scientific research does.

Vaccination in the developing world makes up a major platform of the Gates Foundation’s philanthropy. Populations that had no access to vaccines for a host of deadly, preventable illnesses now do. The Foundation’s efforts are working. In just one example, India, a country ravaged by polio not that long ago, reported one single case in 2011.

It’s the polio vaccine that makes up one of the most common claims against the Foundation, that Gates-sponsored vaccines caused 47,500 cases of paralysis in India. You’ll find this claim all over vaccine-doomsayer websites, and as you can guess, it’s not true. The polio vaccine does not cause polio. These cases turned out to be acute flaccid paralysis, caused by a non-polio enterovirus. Another oft-repeated and equally bogus claim is that Malawian children were forced at gunpoint to take Gates vaccines. The source of this is, of course, Natural News – which referenced an article from Malawi Voice that appears to have been taken down shortly after it went up.

Golden rice, currently saving lives in a country near you.

Golden rice, currently saving lives in a country near you. (Wikimedia commons)

Skeptical Raptor has a good write-up of these and other false vaccine-related accusations against the Gates Foundation. Read it, then beat your head against the nearest wall.

CLAIM: Bill Gates is a eugenics advocate who wants to cull the world’s population. Conspiracy theories about global depopulation are legion, with everyone from the UN to the Illuminati supposedly preparing a massive thinning of the herd through “soft kill” techniques. So naturally, a Bill Gates speech about how vaccines can reduce the population of the world would be a big deal and prove him to be a murderous monster.

Of course, Gates never said such a thing.

What Gates DID do was give a TED talk in 2010, called “Innovating to Zero.” The focus of the talk was reducing global carbon emissions to, as per the title, zero. Out of that speech came this quote, which conspiracy mongers have seized on as an admission that Gates is a eugenicist in programmer’s clothing:

The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent, but there we see an increase of about 1.3.

Devoid of context, it looks like he’s saying that vaccines and health care could kill a billion people. But a rational person doesn’t look at this and see the richest man in the world calmly (and publicly) outlining his plans for genocide. What Gates is talking about is reducing population growth, and reputable science bears out that a higher-standard of living equals lower birth rates. Included in this are things like good health care, better food and, yes, vaccines.

Like all the other depopulation plans, this one appears to be either not real or moving incredibly slowly.

CLAIM: Bill Gates is single-handedly destroying education in America. The Gates Foundation played a key role in the development, funding and promotion of Common Core, an education initiative dedicated to reforming standards in math and English. The benefits, drawbacks and myths surrounding Common Core are probably legion enough to warrant their own blog post, but it’s clear that the Gates Foundation is intertwined with this work. If you think Common Core is a bad idea, and many people do, you’re naturally going to hang this on the Gates Foundation.

CLAIM: Bill Gates is a member of various global elite bankster ruling cadres, including the Illuminati and the Bilderberg Group. Gates was a member of the 2010 Bilderberg Group conference, so that claim is factually correct. Though as with everything Bilderberg related, it’s slathered in misinformation and fear.

As for Gates being a member of the all-powerful Illuminati, if such a group existed, Gates’ status as one of the richest men on the planet would probably approve him for charter membership – along with virtually every other powerful, wealthy and important person around.

So is the Gates Foundation an arm of the apocalypse, or an instrument for good? That depends on whether you think vaccination and ending hunger are good things. Since I do, I’m pretty firmly on their side.

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71 Responses to Why Would Bill Gates Want to Kill One Billion People?

  1. Anne Ramsey says:

    I Just have one question. If GMO is only single crop with no seed then what good is it to developing countries who have to buy seeds every season and not cultivate their own crops.

  2. George says:

    Answer: GMI is not only obe crop with one seed. Anything else?

  3. es says:

    What I think Anne is asking is about the business practices of Monsanto. If you buy their GMO seeds, you are legally entitled to plant one crop, one season and not allowed to reserve the seeds from a portion of your crop for planting the next season. This means that farmers have to buy seeds every season.

    • Innominata says:

      And if it was not economically viable to buy more next season, because your GM crops yield much better profits, then you would not use GM crops. The take away here is that YES! GM crops are so much more cost effective than regular crops, that farmers are buying the seeds every year.

      The only people with a problem with this are people who mistakenly think that Monsanto’s millions or billions of research and development of seeds that HELP FARMERS is worth absolutely nothing to farmers. If this is the case, then farmers wouldn’t want these seeds.
      If they are the next best thing, they will buy them, using some of the money they would have otherwise had to spend on pesticides, and end up better off.

      • Borris Konoviche says:

        Why are you in this discussion?

        GMO crops EXPECT to be given lethal doses of herbicides. They’ve been genetically modified to be resistant to the poison, hence killing off the weeds and other vegetation.

        In other words, Herbicides Are required.

        • innominata says:

          Why am I in this discussion? Because I have a modicum of intelligence. Why are you here? You realise that the chemicals that the seeds we are talking about resist are CHEAP chemicals. Sure, farmers could spray a cocktail of chemicals to do the same job, but why do that when roundup is easily available, and relatively cheap. You are adding nothing to the discussion, did you even read the article?

  4. It would do those that argue that GMO is hurting small farmers a great deal of good to spend some time on a modern single-operator farm as it would help them lose some of the misconceptions that are driving these arguments. In most cases, successful farmers in this class are business people first, then agronomists, millwrights, equipment operators and chemical technicians, then lastly, (if at all) romantic about what they do. Most have considerable formal education in their field and are well up on the technology and scientific advances in agriculture and try to apply as much of what is available from these areas as they can afford to their operations.

    Outside of Third World subsistence farmers no modern farmer saves seed from last year’s crop to sow the following season, but instead relies on commercial hybridized seed and has done so long before Roundup Ready and other GMO cultivars showed up. They do this because it is far more convenient and because commercial seed is guaranteed to germinate.

    Modern farmers are in no more thrall to their seed suppliers than they are to the companies they buy their equipment, machinery, pesticides, and fertilizers from, and probably less than they are to several other economic entities they must do business with or through like banks and marketing cooperatives.

  5. Reg says:

    The question presumes the intent and if fact, then only one person can answer it.

    What everyone seems to have forgotten is that vaccines and antibiotics have put us on the credit side when it comes to the squandering of lives. Man has erred once more.

    Oh sorry, this IS purely a logical and economic discussion isn’t it?

    • Christian says:

      Reg, are you saying that vaccines have squandered lives, or saved them ? I am not sure what you’re implying. I THINK you’re saying vaccines have cost lives, but that’s so dumb that I don’t want to put words in your mouth if that’s not what you meant.

      • Reg says:

        Well being in credit means that vaccines and antibiotics have saved an enormous number of lives, even it was a bit globally patchy . But since the subject appears to be one of the pure logic and economics of whether Bill has the power and desire to restore the balance by exterminating one billion people, some-one is playing silly-buggers.

        Quote Bill’s Ted torque, “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent, but there we see an increase of about 1.3. Unquote.

        “Great job and new vaccines” needs defining, but without it I am led to believe that Bill is operating from the best of intentions rather than the worst, what-ever that is, so he is seeking to save the vast population from pain and starvation.

        For this we need a non-reproductive health service, or rather we would have, before Global Warming promised to take a hand and either drown the hoardes or move them into such population density that the warriors would rise to the surface requiring all available sustenance to keep the enemies at bay while the population they are protecting starve to death anyway.

        Not dissimilar to the Republican attitude to defense and health-care.

        I make no judgement, for that we need a real idiot.

        • Christian says:

          Ah. I see…. In my mind, most conspiracy theories start from a feeling of helplessness. Bill Gates has more money than me, so he must be holding me down. I am sure Bill has the best of intentions, and it’s obvious that improved infant health and access to services such as education, will lower the birth rate, and is probably one of the reasons it’s already peaking and starting to drop.

          • Reg says:

            It is ever the human propensity to judge people by the status of their birth regardless of the evidence. Lloyd George and Winston Churchill are cases in point.

            The lowly born Lloyd George of Welsh origin is still seen as the upholder of individual freedom and protector of the masses and yet it was he who, because of his ineptitude, allowed thousands of working people to be slaughtered under the guns of the enemy during WWI.

            While the high born Winston Churchill, from his own jealous desire for personal aggrandizement and recognition and prone to error, truly had the welfare of the individual at his core. But he had the ability to rise above his dreadful failures with the full appreciation that he would probably fail again.

            Bill is fortunate that his wealth, so relatively easily obtained, can be used to help those whom the general population would rather ignore for as long as possible.

            And there we have some fanatic driven to question Bill’s motives as if he should have simply retired on his generous pension until the tides had risen and washed it all away. I’m afraid I cannot help reading some sort of hopeless religious fatalism into such a dismal approach.

          • Christian says:

            Yes, I’ve often wondered why people think so much of Steve Jobs, and so little of Bill Gates, given how they both chose to spend their money and time.

          • Reg says:

            Hey Christian if you follow TED talks, have a look at this one by our very own Mark Kendall, about Nanopatches. Hair raising in its potential.

            http://www.ted.com/speakers/mark_kendall.html

          • Re: George v. Churchill, daft theory, Churchill regularly tops greatest Briton of all time polls, and maintains massive popularity, he was also as enthusiastic for WW1 as the rest of the early twentieth century British ruling class. Llyod George on the other hand was the son of teachers (thus middle class, not working), he was raised by his uncle after his father died and though his uncle was not a rich man he was (as a shoemaker in the small Welsh community they grew up in) a respected and prominent person and a huge influence.

            You appear to be of the Malcolm Gladwell school of thought that somehow people who are born into great privilage aren’t actually born into great privilage but suffer greatly because of it, most especially becuase of people’s jealously and resentment of those high born, which again would be nice if it had any basis in truth or fact, shockingly it turns out being born into wealth and privilage confers a massive advantage and indeed that advantage has if anything been grossly underestimated. http://www.thersa.org/events/audio-and-past-events/2014/the-truth-about-social-mobility

          • Reg says:

            What rubbishing presumption Sean. I am a long term admirer of Churchill but am not oblivious to his driven need for publicity and self-aggrandizement. His tiny stint on the battle-field of WWI was part of this after his connection with the Dardanelles tragedy. Yes we know by now it was the failure of the officer corps but Churchill suffered dreadfully by his connection.

            Lloyd George, by the time of WWII was smarting at Churchill’s jibes and presumed that when the shit hit the fan the nation would once more call on him. It never did and Churchill ensured that it didn’t. Yes even though Churchill was a great admirer of LG’s ability to speak to the core of a problem, when it came to action, LG was left standing.

            One could say the same about the US.

      • alix says:

        hello ding dong!…
        Its been proven logically and scientifically that vaccines cause more harm then good for most people. And here is why:
        1. Vaccine is a virus introduced to a body for a purpose to strengthen the immune system.
        2. If the immune system is already shot then your only lowering the organisms natural way of protecting itself. As a result your making the organism more vulnerable to attacks and it often lethal.
        3. The immune shot is not tailored to individual organism and its condition and/or medical needs to be effective for all. Often times a patients exhibits an adverse reaction due to unknown side effect from the shot.
        4. Shots for kids and infants is prohibited by common sense because the childs immune system is only developing and strengthening itself against such attacks but instead you attack the vulnerable organism with so many shots that this child gets sick and unforeseen reaction follows.

        Ive witnessed personally such reactions to an infant and nothing logical was found about it.

        Now when we begin to use targeted and tailored vaccine shots ill keep my mouth shut for time being.

        • Eric Hall says:

          So you say it has been scientifically proven to cause harm, but then you post links which show pretty definitively they do not. I’m not sure where you are going with your comments, but vaccines do work – not perfectly, but better than almost anything else we can do to treat or prevent disease.

          • alix says:

            i post links to show both sides. And I didnt say they didnt work. I said they were useless/harmful to the already destroyed immune system. Read the conditions again because ill just be repeating myself all over again.

  6. fagsaresin says:

    All you sheep for GMO seeds deserve all the deaths that come. I cant wait..

    • Christian says:

      Wow – that doesn’t seem like a trolling post at all…

      • Reg says:

        Perhaps he, she or it, is being sarcastic. Who knows. Bananas and Strawberries are genetically modified.

        Oh I get it, it can’t wait to die. :-)

        Now that’s an interesting thought. Waiting is PART of dying.

        Which reminds me…. wandering…. on the Tibetan mountain sides, the air has half the oxygen content but ten times the ultra-violet rays of that found at sea level. Seedlings die in a few hours if exposed to such radiation. Farasaresin should try doing a Kramer in the tanning machine, without goggles of course, that should hurry the process.

        • Christian says:

          The username is what marks it as deliberate trolling, as much as anything.

          But yes, everyone dies. You just need to wait.

          Tanning machines are being made illegal where I live. There’s even talk of a buyback scheme. Personally I think it’s a waste of money, that’s just natural selection at work.

          • Reg says:

            Buy-back scheme be buggered, bad commercial choices deserve to shrivel on the vine. They probably paid for their investment in their first flush of over-charging anyway. Does anyone think the cigarette manufacturers need compensation?

            So much stuff comes on the market at inflated prices and all it takes is a single purchase to discover it’s rubbish, which all producer wanted anyway. The majority simply write it off as a bad choice. Just imagine, 100,000 sales at $25 to totally dissatisfied customers each described as getting what they paid for. Crap. $2,500,000 for an outlay of a pittance by the hawker. Plus postage. Have a look at those “Stocking Fillers.” Anything from an iPhone to a plastic duck.

            By the way I’m a Nokia user surrounded by iPhones. I have lost count of the hours and days lost returning other people’s iPhones to Apple for repairs or condemnation, but never a Nokia.

            Apple don’t buy anything back even though it’s only the battery. They want $179 for their failure.

          • Christian says:

            I’m an Android man myself. I didn’t know Nokia still existed :-)

          • Reg says:

            I did not know that Androids had got to that level of intelligence?

            Haven’t you seen their Nokia 25 megabit stabilized camera phone? Or whatever. High res zoomed in shots without shake. Almost like being there. Duel lens three D projected on the eye-balls is next I imagine.

            My SIL makes a living from doing the art on some of those dreadful games and he’s changed from iPhone to .. what is it again…andy-roid to make sure they look as intended? So it sounds as if you’re on the right track Christian #178463. :-)

            On the tanning business, they used to rub dog poo on hides to cure it, so perhaps there’s a thought for a natural tanning process in there somewhere. Wolf poo might be even better. I know snake poo is a cert for getting possums, mice and rats out of the ceiling.

            What were we talking about again?

          • Christian says:

            *grin* I can’t remember, either. I do have a feeling Nokia does Windows phones now, that’s why they are outside my sphere.

          • Reg says:

            Yeah Windows phones are just so cuddly and Apple security is driving me around the bend yet still it fails.

            The only conclusion I can draw from this is that so many users HATE Apple, that security is their never-ending problem. I had a 24 character, no spaces Apple password and still someone breached it. shisss.

  7. Christian says:

    People seem to love Apple, they seem completely oblivious to the fact that they are at least as evil as Microsoft.

  8. Really respect your logical analysis of the Gates foundation. I remember that Ted talk, and all these people on a few websites taking what he said totally out of context. It was obvious he was talking about reducing the growth of the population through birth control, but people were so willing to burn him at the stake they were blinded by their pre-existing opinion. Ironic because most of these people think they are “spiritual”…. not even close…

    • Reg says:

      Some people cannot separate themselves from the conviction that having money and thus power, equates with the desire to perform evil acts. Crazy.

      I too am convinced that no matter how clearly and concisely one says something, there are always others who, by acts of pure closed-mindedness, WILL not understand.

      This is why primary school teachers have to keep repeating themselves, so what does that say about the some of the TED listeners?

  9. Bill gates is blind to the spirit. He does not see the soul. Had the devil show up looking like God he would think the devil was God doing his biding. Satan wants life sterilized. Satan is in the Police system too. Bill Gates does not see beyond this life. Bodies that are dark inside see darkness after this life. Those with the Father of lights in them knows that there will be light after this life for those not refusing to be like Jesus is. Jesus does not want death.

  10. Chris Hunt says:

    If he were really trying to kill or maim millions of people, funding dodgy crops and fake vaccines seems like a really inefficient way to achieve that aim.

    Why not just hang on to his money and let famine and disease do the job for him?

  11. Troy says:

    GMO are sold by the same corporations(Monsanto,Dow,DuPont) that claim they are safe when third party scientists know they cause cancer in lab rats within a month. The FDA has nothing to do with clearing them for consumption. Funny,the yields are not higher!! Guess who’s minding the store folks,nobody? History shows us that if you have the budget you can sell a camel a toothbrush or star in your very own version of history of the world.

  12. newsdecoded says:

    Bill needs to pay his deal off to his God Moloch who is Satan’s Chief Demon God, a billion souls ahh thats nothing for Bill – Gefiltefish – as long as he delivers these sacrifices he can keep bringing out more useless versions of word that the whole world has to subscribe to because they are all already pre-downloaded onto the computer at the point of purchase and soon the whole world will always be his ….mooooohhhhhhaaaaaaahahahahahah

  13. Ron says:

    Please explain the theory on exactly how this works:

    “higher-standard of living equals lower birth rates. Included in this are things like good health care, better food and, yes, vaccines”.

    Why would these things reduce birth rates rather than increase them?

  14. whocares says:

    Bill Gates would do the world more good if he were in a BODY BAG and the sooner the better!

  15. Patty Soos says:

    There is no discussion here we already GMO’s are unsafe it has been proven. We already know that it is a way to control food. No one should control the seed supply…plan and simple ….Don’t bother listening to the people are not free thinkers or who are blogger hired by Monsanto

    • innominata says:

      Oh dear. Now ‘Free Thinker’ means ‘Doesn’t do their own research, and continues to promote the myth of GMO danger’. SUPPLY PEER REVIEWED LITERATURE if you want to be taken seriously, otherwise go away, you are wasting electricity.

    • Christian says:

      Patty, here’s all you need to know about the credibility of those warning you about Monsanto

      https://www.metabunk.org/threads/hoax-madagascar-pranks-march-against-monsanto.3731/

      • Reg says:

        Congratulation on the find Christian. I hope someone reads it.

        A clever kid.

        This reminds me of the natives who were breaking into the experimental plots to get the GMO bananas because their stable diet of local bananas were disease ridden. They ones they had to cook before they could eat them.

    • Drew says:

      Good job, calling it like it is, these guys are so full of themselves and their pushing of propaganda! It’s crazy. They have either never researched what they are endorsing or they are paid propagandist. Have they no conscience?

      • Eric Hall says:

        Do you have any proof that either of those scenarios are true? How about the claim that GMOs are unsafe?

        Patty does raise an interesting concern in the control over seeds in the form of patents. But that is an entirely different issue from the safety. Muddling those two points together only weakens the legitimate argument.

  16. Raiden says:

    Yeah, why not sign over the food supply to half a dozen multinational corporations, the largest of whom got their start by causing half a million babies to be born mutilated in Africa?

    IF my head were one of Bill Gates’s testicles, I would think “yeah, what a great idea”. But fortunately it isn’t.

    And for f1ck’s sake. Enough with the “higher yields” charade. Europe has just as high yields of corn compared to the US. In 2005, 2007 and 2010 we had MORE. Screw you and screw Monsanto that nobody in America has the BALLS to stand up to.

    • Christian says:

      Did you read my link above or are you scared to ?

      • Sin says:

        So because one group of people who spoke out against this corporation turns out to consist solely of clowns and ass hats it automatically means that nobody could ever have a valid complaint against said corporation???

        Sounds like some of that flimsy science you’re so disappointed in everyone who disagrees with you for using…

        Did YOU read the links someone else provided which takes the position that the claim of higher yields for GMOs is, in fact, bad science that fails to take into account all the environmental factors that determine crop yield???

        For me, this begs the question…what’s the difference between you and the average GMO naysayers??? You say that they’re all wrong and you’re right because you did the research and they obviously didn’t, otherwise they would come to the same conclusions as you…but you seem to disregard any info that doesn’t fit with the conclusions you’ve already drawn…

        Hold still now…this is gonna hurt me more than it hurts you…**smacks Christians nose with a rolled up newspaper** BAD SCIENTIST!!! BAD BAD SCIENTIST!!!

        Go ahead…keep ignoring whatever you don’t want to hear…see if I don’t rub your nose it…

  17. alix says:

    U can explain it all you want and bring up all kinds of scientists and years of research. BUT, knowing that we all have been conditioned to take what scientists say as a sacred fact and no more thinking required is unacceptable. Good scientists died to break stories and describe the many circumstances how they are slaves for a lack of a better word to the people they work for and anything they do will reflect on them for better or worse. I cant trust scientists in general but i can trust those that dont contradict my common sense. When you have equally competent scientist contradict one another, that’s another sign that one or the other is playing some kind of game for someone. The game is much bigger then scientists, and the hierarchy of power really helps to keep u dumb, because you must never question your superior. So all in all, yes you’ve explained much and used a logical way to make sense of it, but logic and truth is not the same thing. I dont care that it makes sense, u can make sense of something in multiple ways as long as your brain buys into it. So, just because u require logic and quiet conscience to believe, not all are so. Trust me with so much going on and having no connection to each other is absurd. After all when another country has no democracy then that fact affects us so much all the way from there, that we must help them restore balance. If this is in fact true then draw your own conclusions regarding common characteristics, tactics and behavior. And if you need a research paper to prove this is so well then it will be one heck of a trip for you to convince you of anything.

    • Eric Hall says:

      You, like many who seem to not be convinced of vaccine safety, confuse accepting the science for accepting the word of a scientist. While a scientist or group of scientists may develop a certain level of trust due to their expertise and experience, it is the science, data, and evidence which provides the truth, not the scientist. I may not read every single paper, because I trust scientists who have in the past displayed a level of expertise in interpreting data in studies. Thus I don’t necessarily have to read every study, for I can reasonably trust that scientist to interpret future results – so I may not look at some papers as close. But do not confuse “the word of a scientist” for “the science.” It is that which guides our knowledge.

      • alix says:

        U can have many equally competent scientists argue on the same thing and defend different results because one believes with his whole being its a mistake to do this instead of that and the other vs. So yes, i dont trust first their intentions are good. Scientist may work for the money, fame..etc. Most of all they do it to know! the natural curiosity and unfortunately that doesn’t come with being being good necessarily. I see that you must trust the data but that still comes with a degree of trust to scientists. Its not difficult to fake results if you know you have trust of the people. And proving anything lately is a pain in the ass. You make this judgement call that “if the dog in front of me behaves then it will behave everywhere it goes with out over watch”. I rather be skeptical in the end.
        All of my sentiments are never rigid enough to be stuck and everything is fluid enough to change

  18. alix says:

    http://www.skepticalraptor.com/vaccine.html
    Educate yourself because my education is ongoing

  19. OneSmall Spot says:

    “Don says:
    May 29, 2014 at 10:00 pm
    When you’re afraid your children might not survive until adulthood, you have more of them to compensate.”

    Seriously?
    What century are you living in??

  20. Black says:

    Of course you’ll say nothing wrong is taking place here. Just look at your last name. *cough*

  21. Hey says:

    BILL GATES IS EVIL.

    • yo says:

      Just read more , people and if u think it’s crazy conspiracy, fine…. myself I was skeptical about it but I read on a internet site …. i would not put the link here…something is going to happen in US in november, probably a financial fall, and a fake flag alarm of pandemic for Ebola. It’s possible Bill Gates is just a “slave” on their terms, Idk, he is a visible face, just like these Rotschild guy ….ashkenazi. The people with the real power don’t show their faces to the world, Bill is doing the dirty work, while we are being so ignorants and blinded by what I call…the corporations of Death and distraction, but apparently…some of them cares for what people actually believe or not. For what I see in some comments …. it’s very interesting …. Anyway you moron, nice eye, “big brother”, the eye of isis, does not belong to the devil

  22. Mary says:

    And now he’s responsible for creating Ebola.

  23. kimber says:

    So you are saying that 47,000 some children were paralyzed that had gotten the vaccine? Was there an investigation?

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