My Favorite Things

A few of my favorite moments looking back on 228 Skeptoid episodes.

by Brian Dunning

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Skeptoid #228
October 19, 2010
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Today I want to do something a little different. One thing that's neat about Skeptoid episodes is that each one is about a single subject. It's a whole lot of little things, and whenever I'm on a radio show or some interview, I almost always get asked which of all these subjects are my favorites. It's always hard to answer on the spot, because I've done so many that I can't think of a tenth of them on the spur of the moment. So I started to write down a list of some of my favorite moments from the series, then decided what the heck, why not make that into an episode too. So here it is.

The more years that I've put into Skeptoid, the more clearly I've recognized what truly excites my passion. Producing Skeptoid is not just fun, it's outrageously fun. It's a grind because I have to stay on schedule and there's a lot of busy work involved, but the research part is like Disneyland on steroids. Who wouldn't love a legitimate excuse to spend part of their day learning about new wild and crazy stuff? I certainly do, and what excites me the most is making a connection that no previous researcher has. It's the difference between opening a treasure chest that nobody's ever seen before, compared to one that a hundred people have already plundered. I've struck such gold a number of times, and the thirst for more has me in a kind of gold fever every time I sit down at my desk. This passion for discovery is what drives me and what makes me spring out of bed at 5:30 every morning with honest excitement. I truly do love it.

Now I don't know for sure that no previous researcher has made these connections, probably somebody has in many of the cases; but I didn't find them and made the discoveries on my own. It's a kind of natural high that I hope everyone can experience, and that I hope will inspire others to want to learn more. Don't stop at the pop-culture supernatural explanations, those are boring. What's fresh and new is the often surprising fact of what's really going on.

The example that I've probably cited the most comes from Borley Rectory, said to be the most haunted house in all of history. Its most notable haunted feature was the automatic writing that appeared on the walls, often while people watched, scrawled words begging for help. This claim appears in print in every modern book written about Borley Rectory, in every documentary film, and it's all over the Internet. My connection came when I read the oldest accounts I could find from a pair of mediums who came to the house to perform seances using a planchette, which is a kind of Ouija board with a pencil. The mediums placed their hands on the planchette, and as it moved around on the table, the pencil would write. The old accounts said that the mediums used rolls of wallpaper laid out on the table, probably because they were the only large rolls of paper that were handy. These primary accounts never made any mention of writing appearing on the walls. It turns out that whole part of the story was nothing more than a modern misinterpretation from reading how writing appeared on the wallpaper while people watched. A completely understandable mistake, and it's become one of pop culture's most often cited examples of paranormal activity. For me, this was a Eureka moment that solved a question that had bugged me since I first read about it as a tiny kid.

There have been at least two cases where something strange has entered the popular mythology, and I discovered that what happened was driven by obscure cultural influences unknown to the Western reporters. One of these was the Faces of Belmez, a case in Spain where a woman was found to have been painting faces on the cement floor of her house for decades, and all the locals believed it was a psychic manifestation. What puzzled me was that it's a profoundly Catholic population: Why would such staunch Catholics be so quick to believe in psychic powers? To me, that was the real mystery, and the answer lay in cultural anthropology. Many of the lower classes in the Andalusian region of Spain are called Romani gitanos, who are ethnically descended from Eastern European gypsies. Even today, gypsies are hugely into psychic powers, faith healing, and communication with the dead. Blend that with the ubiquitous Catholicism throughout Spain, and suddenly a psychic manifestation becomes a practically inevitable confirmation of Santa Maria. The cultural influence spoke louder than the conventional clues.

I made a similar discovery investigating the case of Hambo Lama Itigelov, a Buddhist monk from eastern Russia near the Mongolian border, who died in 1927 and whose body is on display at his monastery where it was exhumed and found to be miraculously incorrupt. They do exaggerate how fresh he looks, but he is remarkably well preserved. To nearly all modern reporters, the discovery of his incorrupt state was a surprise and an inexplicable miracle. But upon reading that Itigelov had given instructions that he be exhumed, I wondered if it might not have been such a surprise after all, so I looked into the traditions of Buddhist monks. And I found one, one that would have especially appealed to Itigelov, who was a pharmacologist and had written a Buddhist encyclopedia on the subject. As the Hambo Lama he would have been thoroughly learned in all the ancient traditions, including one handed down from the Buddhist monks in Japan, called sokushinbutsu, or self mummification. I put the pieces together and discovered he'd given instructions that he be buried packed in salt, and that he'd spent his final months in secrecy and his body was found to be saturated with preserving bromine salts. There was no mystery and no surprise, there was merely the practice of an obscure ancient tradition. You get no help from previous writers with this stuff; I had to find all of this on my own, and when everything fell into place, it was so rewarding.

Many times, previous writers aren't merely unhelpful, they actually steer you wrong. One thing I've discovered time and time again is that flagrant plagiarism is endemic among those who write about the paranormal on the Internet. Articles are often unapologetically wholesale copy-and-pasted from one site to another. It's because these authors are so thoughtful and put so much research into their work. One such case was my episode on the Brown Mountain Lights in North Carolina. Every article I found about them, Wikipedia included, contained a snippet of text purported to be from a researcher named de Brahm back in 1771, who wrote that the lights were caused by gases escaping from the mountains and igniting. The problem was that this author's books are all online and searchable, and I couldn't find that sentence in anything he'd ever written. I put the question out to the Skeptoid Research email list to see if anyone could track it down, and sure enough, several people did. Turns out I couldn't find the text because he'd been subtly misquoted, and furthermore, when read in context, he was expressing his prescientific thoughts on why lightning occurs. It didn't have anything whatsoever to do with the Brown Mountain Lights. Just about every book and article ever written about the Lights cites this sentence as a primary source and is the only evidence that the Lights existed prior to the arrival of the train and the automobile, and they're all wrong.

This happened again when I researched the Bell Witch, widely considered the most authentic and dramatic case of witchcraft in U.S. history. This required deep historical research — not into the events, but into the printed sources. When I followed the primary sources cited by all the contemporary accounts, they all led back to one original book written and published 75 years after the hauntings. This author, a writer and publisher named Ingram, claimed that his primary source was a diary from one of the Bell children that dubiously fell into his possession. He never produced the diary, gave any evidence of its existence, or gave a believable account of how he obtained it. He also falsified at least one other primary source, gave quotes and stories only from people who were already deceased, and made up historical events (like a visit from Andrew Jackson) that contradict known history. I discovered that the entire Bell Witch incident was almost entirely, if not entirely, a hoax from an imaginative author, just like the Amityville Horror.

People sometimes ask me if I'm not disappointed when I find out that these urban legends aren't true. Hardly. For me it's never been about disproving things or showing that the world is less interesting than we hope. For me it's about new discoveries, and every one of them gives me a rush. Many of these stories are so deeply ingrained into our culture that everyone who's heard about them believes them, and every book you can pick up reinforces that. Making a new discovery, and overturning the current state of our knowledge, is what every researcher and scientist longs for. It's where the fun is. It's the gold at the end of the rainbow.

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Paranormal stories are square pegs in round holes. They simply don't fit our understanding of how the universe works. When a lazy researcher concludes that a paranormal explanation must be the true one, they know that red buzzer is going off telling them they probably haven't found the right answer yet; they just choose to ignore it for whatever reason. Maybe to them, being different is more important than actually solving the puzzle. I like to have everything fit. I like seeing the pegs drop into the holes. I'm excited to see what the solved puzzle looks like. I know that's not everyone's cup of tea, but for me, picking up a Rubik's Cube and getting it right is where the real magic is.

Every story out there that depends on some supernatural element is an unsolved puzzle. I look at all of these puzzles and I feel like a kid in a toy store. And that, I think, is the best way to explain why I love making Skeptoid.

Brian Dunning

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References & Further Reading

Aufderheide, A. The Scientific Study of Mummies. New York: Cambridge University Press, 2003. 273-276.

Cook, J. "The Spirit of Red River." Bell Witch Legend. Jack Cook, 1 Sep. 2006. Web. 16 Jan. 2010. <>

Morris, R. Harry Price: The Psychic Detective. Stroud: Sutton Publishing, 2006.

Radford, B. "The Amityville Horror.", 15 Apr. 2005. Web. 7 Dec. 2009. <>

Toomey, M. Tennessee Encyclopedia of History and Culture. Nashville: Tennessee Historical Society, 1998.

Tort, C. "Belmez Faces Turned Out to Be Suspiciously 'Picturelike' Images." Skeptical Inquirer. 1 Mar. 1995, Volume 19, Number 2: 4.

Reference this article:
Dunning, B. "My Favorite Things." Skeptoid Podcast. Skeptoid Media, Inc., 19 Oct 2010. Web. 31 Mar 2015. <>


10 most recent comments | Show all 14 comments

228 Skeptoid episodes
how many investigations changed your skeptical view and which ones were they?

Matthew Sparks, Sacramento, CA
October 19, 2010 9:04pm


The stance that Tibet=bad is the general stance in China. If you find foreign propaganda refreshing, you can find plenty of it.

Max, Boston, MA
October 20, 2010 1:13am

I am aware of the Chinese standpoint, I just meant it was a change to hear a Western commentator echoing the argument. As far as I know, Brian is not a CCP ideologue. My post could have been more lucid, however, I was half cut at the time.

Chris, Wirral, UK
October 20, 2010 4:11am

I've noticed the same thing: most "historical mysteries" and weirdness pass through a bottleneck at some point. The Oak Island story eventually traces back to one guy (who claims to have heard it from the original discoverers). The Beale Cipher likewise traces back to one guy. Those bottlenecks are a red flag, because usually there's no independent confirmation for anything earlier, and all later confirmation is just sloppy researchers plagiarizing each other.

Cambias, Western Massachusetts
October 20, 2010 7:37am


Spot on. I've got a coworker who thinks Oak island is the real deal. He just looks beyond the lack of historical proof, lack of evidence, lack of anything real dug up to date, etc. as more proof of the mystery.

And the guy is an engineer too!

Ray, Kathleen, GA
October 21, 2010 6:31am

Your tireless morning efforts have kept me inspired to get up a couple of hours before work every morning and research for my own long form science blog.

Thanks for the hard work and inspiration!

Josh DeWald, Los Angeles, CA
October 23, 2010 8:30am

Hello Brian,

Just a quick note to say how much I enjoyed this episode. I like Skeptoid in general, but the personal appeal you put forth in this episode is wonderfully honest and refreshing. I am glad you enjoy the adventure of running down the truth behind myths and urban legends. Keep up the good work!

Dave, Cleveland, OH
November 13, 2010 7:38pm

Cambias, another podcast called "monster talk" seems to always trace urban legend to a single source being misquoted or deliberately faked.

Brian has many associates in the skeptical podcast circles. Each with their own unique approach. They align beautifully.

Henk van der Gaast, Sydney
December 1, 2010 4:36pm

September 25th 2011
Hello Brian.
I've recently discovered podcasts in general and Skeptoid in particular and I must say that I am thoroughly enjoying your reasoned and balanced approach to the myriad topics you cover.
Since I am a Skeptoid 'newbie' I have been systematically working my way through all of your previous episodes and in doing so have come upon #228. As usual, the episode was well presented but I feel it necessary to point out something that I am sure you (and any reseachers that assist) may wish to be aware; the term 'gypsy' is a racial slur traditionally used by some Europeans of different countries to refer to the Roma people - a distinct ethno-cultural group originating from northern India. The term 'gypsy' made its way into our lexicon via an early error wherein these peoples were believed to have come from Egypt. There are various regional names for the (several) tribes of Romani, hence 'Gitana' in parts of Spain, but referring to these people as 'gypsies' is no different than calling someone a 'kike', 'pollack', 'gook', 'chink', 'nigger' or any of the other pejoratives that ignorant people of any stripe are quite pleased to create for those who do not belong to their particular ethnic, social or national group.
A long winded email I know but...I do believe that, as thinking individuals, we need to point out and/or confront this type of thing when encounter it.
Thanks again for the great podcasts, I remain a loyal listener.

Kurtis Mohammed, Vancouver, BC, Canada
September 25, 2011 4:04am

Just a comment on the Borley rectory. I always thought that the writing on the wall originated from Book of Daniel in the Old Testament. Read chapter 5 from the Book of Daniel. I think that what happened in the Borley story was a blend of something old and known to be ominous and a modern horror story. Keep up the great work.

M. Karppelin, Helsinki, Finland
June 27, 2012 6:16am

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