The Real Philadelphia Experiment

why does thousands of people claim to have seen the same things???
I belive in gov cover ups
I do think that as human beings we do have a right to know and perhaps see documents that the gov does have on anything thay may sound pecuilar
Is there anything out there that might put a mind to rest?
just hersey and jibberish

alisha, alberta
December 25, 2006 1:28am

It may interest you to know that I was there! Of course I had hair back then too...An awful film mind you...If I'm correct, it stared Kirk Douglas? and it never got to the point...like some other people I can think of!

It's funny what temporal distortion does to ones grey matter!

As for government covering anything up - yeh, until they leave office and then ...who cares? Some people don't seem to realise that they change office frequently.

If there where any special force fields out there, we'd know about them. AND if we don't, then how the hell do they - the cranks, losers, psycho's...

Beam me up Jabber!

Neil Griffiths, cardiff,wales,uk
December 25, 2006 5:33am

PS. What's so fantastic anyway...nobody does it do they? So the experiment [if it did occur] was a flop!

Ah, Xmas dinner. Bye!

What? You don't believe me? You think it's all a conspiracy! Why? because it says 5:30am. Well then, that's the temporal distortion I was telling you about...

Neil Griffiths, cardiff,wales,uk
December 25, 2006 5:39am

Just another example of credulous people wanting to believe that everything can be blamed on some machiavellian higher power.

Ok, fair enough, governments in general are motivated by self-interest, self-preservation and greed. It doesn't mean that they have the capacity to alter the fabric of existence.

Neal Campbell, Belfast, Earth
December 27, 2006 1:44am

The "hersey and jibberish" is the only evidence that anything took place at all!

Moreover, let's look at this logically: if, 60 years ago, the US Navy developed the technology to send a Destroyer-Escort into hyperspace (or make it invisible, or dematerialized, or whatever...), then why in God's name have they been sitting on it for six decades?

By now we should have hyperspace submarines or invisible aircraft carriers. Sure, it was Top Secret in 1943, but so was the atomic bomb. Now third-rate countries like Iran can build atomic weapons.

And even if the Navy is covering it up due to, oh, a completely motiveless desire to cover stuff up, why hasn't some _other_ country followed the same line of research in the past 60 years? Even if we don't have invisible dematerializing hyperspace aircraft carriers, surely the Soviets would have built them, or the Chinese, or the French.

The "Philadelphia Experiment" is nonsense on every level. People's belief in it is inversely proportional to their understanding of science, history, politics, and human nature.

Cambias, Amherst, MA
December 28, 2006 7:59am

Honestly, don't any of these people use spell check?

ladygnat, San Antonio, Texas
January 09, 2007 9:11am

Good article, and very to the point in regards to what conspiracy type thinking is.
My shipmates and I saw the film on board the ship we were on and had a good laugh. We also tried to see how long after it came out we were going to be asked about it.
I was an Elrctronics Tech, and happened to be stationed on a destroyer (Gearing class)slightly larger than the Eldridge. Believe me, I am still trying to figure out, where were they going to put the rrequired power facilities and gear plus the manpower to do such an experiment during that time frame. I've been to the exact place in the Philly yards where this supposedly occured, and there is no way it could be of been hidden from the rest of the base at that time. Needless to say it happens immediately after WWII when the base was crawling with civilians that were doing all the work in order to keep the sailors at sea. Try keeping them from saying anything...
I believe it is an awesome work of Sci-Fi, but yes, maybe one or two of the details even though made up may have had something to do with research being done at the time. Specially since USA was in the midst of turning into a technological giant at the time. Oh yes, and the first working transistor was not created until 1947 at Bell Labs New Jersey.

Luis Torres USN (Ret.), Charleston, SC
January 09, 2007 9:28am

We have a new law or force of nature in that every internet discussion or comment forum someone will ALWAYS comment about the spelling.

What is that?

Really...what is that?

Oh yea...Great piece about the Philadelphia Experiment.

Frank, Shanghai, China
January 12, 2007 7:02pm

The easiest people to fool in the world are skeptics. Why? Because they'll believe the lamest reasons for why something didn't happen instead of looking for evidence that proves what really did. Robert Goerman is their poster child and this proves it - http://www.viewzone.com/philadelphia.html . For those who don't want to bother reading the whole thing, the Unexplained edited out the scientific information for the basis of the invisibility aspect that came from an unnamed scientist, who claimed he was a part of the PE. The web site restores what that information was (all except the video footage of the experiment testing the validity of the scientist's claims), proving the scientist's testimony was correct and the show had produced a cover-up.

Goerman admits that he had that scientist's information before he wrote his book and infamous Fate article claiming that Allende made it all up, but that he *never looked into it*. So much for him being a reseracher and so much for any skeptical claims that it was a hoax.

If the scientist's explanation for what they were trying to do checks out, then the odds that it was never attempted start approaching zero.

And zero is the amount of credibility that any show has that would do what A&E's The Unexplianed did.

I rest my case.

David Steele, Marble Cliff, OH
January 15, 2007 11:51am

There will always be vast quantities of people who find the need to pick at seemingly closed subjects such as the Philadelphia Experiment.
Surely we should let the governments do their jobs and let us worry about truly worrying topics such as how the world is due a super volcano eruption, global warming or how in 2012 21st-22nd of December the world may witness cataclysmal events predicted for millenia by the myans amongst other civilisations, the earth's crust may skid olong the ever changing axis?

Just a thought.

Benjamin Cadge, Whitstable, Kent, England
January 17, 2007 5:11am

Regarding the loose end of the ONR calling up Jessup about the annotated copy of his book -- they didn't just do it on a whim. They had copies of the annotated book, with the multi-colored ink -- printed in an edition of about 100 and distributed in the Navy. (The "Varo Edition" is a much prized item among conspiracy collectors.)

Printing a multi-color facsimile edition of random annotations isn't a big deal in terms of the entire Navy budget, but it show display some dedication and time spent on the effort.

And it's also deeply weird.

obscurantist, los angeles
April 16, 2007 9:30pm

i need more info and more pics of the ship after it reapperaed in the harbor

death, hell
June 28, 2007 5:41am

I think you guys suck we need more pictures and information!! Thanks :]]

Felisha cooper, Moriarty
September 13, 2007 1:00pm

i would really like to know what the hell happened! but,hey,this is the good ole u.s of a....one will never know will one??????

justa,hoax?, Sidney
November 01, 2007 10:12pm

The annotated Varo edition of jessups book is available for download in pdf format. I, like the author above, also enjoyed this conspiracy and the commentary throughout the start of the book is very enjoyable and really gets the imagination running. I have'nt read much of it yet though.

Stephen, Dublin
December 02, 2007 9:53am

i need more pic of the inside of the ship after it re apeared because im doing this for a project and i need pic of the inside after it happened

Ben, detroit
May 19, 2008 9:57am

In my mind, we could in a way easily find out what is fact and what is fiction..

1. locate ships log of all personell unboard USS eldridge and SS furuseth...

2. investigate all stories of those, if they have given any. Surviving people may have given stories onwards to their kids at a later stage....

3. Not all of them after all these years can keep their mouths shut , even if the goverments have brainwashed them. I know its one hell of a detective job with lots of research... but would also be worthwhile if time and ressources were available.

perhaps we should gather a group who together could do this and have people living in respective areas of relatives/surviving people conduct the research.. that though requiers one person to keep track of everything/coordinating... and if we can obtain the original personell files who were on duty the dates in question. also for the first test...

what do you all think?

Henning, Copenhagen
July 25, 2008 3:33pm

Like the man said, "Never let the facts get in the way of a good story."

I own a copy of the Necronomicon, but that doesn't mean that I risk insanity or death by way of being torn apart by demons from reading it (even aloud, which I have done several times).

It's a great story and an interesting thought, but I was in the Air Force, and you'd have trouble convincing the government to invest in something with proven results, much less something for which tangible evidence cannot be produced. To put it simply, the Navy wouldn't buy into it unless they first saw proof that it worked and the evidence were well-documented.

John, Mississippi
September 23, 2008 11:27am

I've heard it said that the navy was actually experimenting with wormholes. Which albert einstien had theories about, which is why he was brought on as a consultant. makes sense to me. I also heard that they were actually experimenting with an alien engine taken from a crashed ufo. anyone else heard this before?

joe bob, springfield
October 07, 2008 7:40pm

This story was told to me by my mother, sometime in the late 1960's-early 1970's.

My mother's uncle worked at the Philly shipyards during the war. One day he came home after work and told his family what he witnessed at the shipyard that day:

There was a ship tied up to the dock. Large machines surrounded the ship. When the machines were turned on they made a very loud humming noise. The ship shimmered, then almost completely disappeared. All he saw was a faint shimmering outline of the ship. After a few minutes the machines were turned off and the ship reappeared. The skeleton crew of 5, all volunteers, were taken off the ship on stretchers. Nobody ever saw or heard from them again.

His family didn't believe him!

JS, New Jersey
November 18, 2008 10:30pm

This has to be one of the most intriguing scientific experiments of the century. I understand that the brilliant Nikola Tesla also worked on this project but detached himself from it because the Govt declined to heed his warnings of some of the possible danger to the crew. Other reports claim that this was an experiment in teleportation and have even stated that the USS Eldridge appeared briefly in another harbour in the US at the exact same time the experiment was conducted. According to these writers, time travel was one of the unexpected and unanticipated outcomes of this experiment.

Allan S, Texas
November 21, 2008 8:28am

Great web site - its amazing that people will still believe in tripe when it is clear that this is all nonsense.....

JC, England
December 18, 2008 5:31am

8 or 10 years ago i watched a documentary on the discovery channel about the philadelphia experiment. the narrator said that powerful electro magnets had been placed around the deck perimeter and when turned on and the power to them increased it would cause vibrations in the ship that would render it invisible.
einstien was shown on the observation ship.
they turned the power on and began to increase it, i saw the ship begin to become slightly transparent, kinda shivery looking, as if looking through a vibrating glass of water, and then all at once the film ended and another program started up but not at its beginning.
it was as if the new show was what was on all the time. i never saw that movie again. i think someone in the know called the discovery channel and told them to nix it.
somehow the discovery channel got hold of a classified secret tape and didn't realize what they had until they were contacted by whomever ordered them to stop transmitting that story.

Gary, Bluff City Tn.
December 28, 2008 12:34pm

So what if this experiment did take place. Who cares. And if it was going to help us win the war... well then I'm glad they covered it up. It's not a conspiracy when you are keeping information from the world in order to pretect a whole nation. Many tests and experiments are conducted in wich I'm glad they keep secret. It is one reason why we do not speak German, but rather we speak our own language hence we were not conquered.

BEAR, Dallas, Texas
January 22, 2009 11:30pm

what if?!!!!

read and listen to Al Bielek, Stewart Swerdlow etc.

They can open some eyes!

I am convinced now it took place. but you have to do your own research

Pindar, Holland
February 04, 2009 1:07pm

Wow, some posters on this topic don't seem listen to the podcast. Or perhaps the forum is infected with trolls...

This episode reminded me of a particularly unpleasant anecdote about my horrible high school education:

My 10th grade science teacher, Mr. Bland (his real name), dedicated 2 entire lessons to informing us about the incredible Philadelphia Experiment, and presented it as fact!

Other things I learned that year: a ton=1000 lbs, a score=10.

Josh, Chicago
February 16, 2009 4:08pm

Hmmm.. reminds me of a similar physics teacher I had when I went back to high school some years ago as an adult, so I could get into university.

As part of a test on measurement, this dweeb had an oscilliscope set up with a waveform displayed.

The test was to "measure the waveform".

I asked him what he meant by "measure" - as there is a lot of information that can be read or derived from an oscilliscope display.

He said "This is a test. No questions".

As I worked in electronic instrument calibration at the time, and had been a radio tech in the Australian navy for years, and was very familiar with the operation of an oscilliscope, I duly read off the displayed voltage (peak to peak) and the wavelength of the signal, measured in milliseconds. I performed some calculations to get the frequency and RMS voltage of the waveform.

I failed the test.

There was also an army guy in the class with a similar background to me. He failed the test, too.

It turned out the teacher wanted us to measure the wavelength, in cm, using a ... broken piece of ruler he had left near the oscilliscope!

He was not a particularly clever man, or a very good teacher ...

Brenton, New Zealand
March 05, 2009 3:19pm

I believe that this was a great a chievement if true but also a great and most horrible disaster as supposedly the men on the ship suffered from something worse than radiation and the lucky one's went mad.

gigi, loden
March 10, 2009 9:06am

ucky one's went mad.....

Or they got stuck in the materaial oof the boat an died,

It was all done by Tesla Technology

Pindar, Holland
April 18, 2009 7:34pm

Hey Pindar!

Great to hear from you again, it's been a few days. Got any pics for us now, because if so, this is one of the coolest topics yet, especially if we could perfect the technology!

Joseph, Norman
April 24, 2009 8:27pm

The large coils were for _demagnetizing_ the ship, making her invisible for _magnetic mines_.
In the constant magnetic field of the Earth, the large steel ship becomes magnetized. This magnetic field change was sensed by the magnetic mine, to blow up only the large ships.
Demagnetizing the ship made her "invisible".
All the rest are attributable to the laws of rumour spreading and distortion.

Béla, Budapest, Hungary
April 25, 2009 2:05am

Great to hear from you again, it's been a few days. Got any pics for us now, because if so, this is one of the coolest topics yet, especially if we could perfect the technology!

Is already perfect, Sir!!!

man o man, don't yu people read? NO ,I don't mean the Scientific American, that one is far too shallow

Pindar, Alaska
April 25, 2009 12:55pm

That doesn't answer my question. Do you have any pictures for us, or will we take some guy on the internet at his word?

Joseph, Norman
May 07, 2009 4:19pm

Joseph,

just use your brain AND your intuition
you will know if you want too

Pindar, Belgium
May 07, 2009 9:53pm

just start thinking and use your powerfull intuition mate!

Pindar, Germany
May 08, 2009 12:02pm

I'm using my intuition, and my intuition says that you're kinda nuts. My intuition also says to wait for evidence before I believe any of this stuff that you're trying to promote, until you provide evidence, which you haven't.

Joseph, Norman
May 10, 2009 4:44pm

maybe check your intuition again
I am guessing you are mixing up your intuition with wishfull thinking

ok?

Pindar, austria
May 12, 2009 7:12am

Who knows exactly.. i'm not quite sure about myself and agree with joseph. Too much undicpered information to count as any part of evidence. Each persons story is some what different. Till then we will factualy never truly understand and consinplate the true meaning of this "conspiracy"

Charlies, new york
May 15, 2009 8:45am

Ever heard of dielectric breakdown.
Perhaps the Philadelphia Experiment did not happen as has been writen but SOMETHING did happen. Recently it has been suggested that Allende, Jessup etc were "Spooks" put in to spread disinformation, thereby obscuring what might have happened. Technically light of course is electromagentic radiation and electromagnetic radiation can be bent and twisted. It kind of follows that if you have a superhigh voltage, would it not therefore be possible to bend light. If you did this on a ship would the light refracted from it not be bbent thereby creating a form of invisibility

John, UK
June 20, 2009 3:47pm

does anyone know what these easily disproved facts are and how they are disproven? the experiment seams unplausible but not inpossible and this site, other debunkers, and supporters of the story all ask us to do the same thing, beleave them. so does anyone know the details?

Jesus, j, nc
July 23, 2009 9:22pm

From what I read + studied. During WWII most of the stuff around you in every day life derived from that time. Dequass it on your computer monitor in your menu. Experinments was designed in that time on ships called dequassing. wires wrapping in ships from head to stern and all around the sides.It would demagnatize the haul of ships. Not attract magnetic mines set by the germans and japeneese. Mainly used on desroyers + mindsweepers.I beleive can be done such to stealth such as radar but not to the naked eye.

Scott J, SC
July 28, 2009 12:02am

You can say "God did it" as much as you want to, but it doesn't really explain much. (Whether or not "God did it" is true or not is not the issue)

A. Nonymous, niojw
September 12, 2009 8:11pm

Wasn't this just all third party sightings of early degaussing testing on warships, and, people not knowing what it was, heard rumours of it being "to Make Ships Invisible"......to magnetic mines.....

Kevin, Maple Ridge BC Canada
September 26, 2009 2:41pm

I believe you are referring to "Deguassing" which is the act of applying electrical cabling through ship hulls which nullifies the magnetic field of the ship. This cloaked it from magnetic mines in combative waters, usually shallow. I invite anyone who has further interests in the Philadelphia experiment to read ONR's reply found here: www.onr.navy.mil/about/foia/philadelphia_experiment.asp
and also read this article by Joe:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/philadelphia_experiment.htm

Ellen S., PA
October 09, 2009 10:59am

I don't know ....I've read the book about it and even bought a VHS tape of Al belick or something like that.He seemed to be now a complete lier and now this.One hell a story,I'll make a note to tell mine as big as well for effect.You just gotta believe a story thats runs wild without reason.To which these things are weak and lame compared to how really strange and beautiful our world is

GIL, South East, TX
November 12, 2009 8:28pm

I want to know if there are any real or known of pictures of the philadelphia experiment. I'm 16 and doing an AP Junior English report on it, and a visual aid would elate my teacher. Help, pleaseeee? I've been looking everywhere, and google is of no help. Ugh. Thanks.

Abby. :)

Abby B., Little Rock, AR
December 14, 2009 12:53pm

Abby, there are no pictures of it, because it is a fictional story that never happened.

You can easily find pictures of the USS Eldridge by searching the web though.

Brian Dunning, Laguna Niguel, CA
December 14, 2009 4:42pm

Quote:
"what if?!!!!

read and listen to Al Bielek, Stewart Swerdlow etc.

They can open some eyes!

I am convinced now it took place. but you have to do your own research

Pindar, Holland
February 04, 2009 1:07pm"

No, Bielek / Nichols / Swerdlow / Moon don't open eyes. They are selling their handmade stories as books and DVD.
Al Bielek was proven to be a liar and hoaxer already in 2003. His claims about his involvement in the Philadelphia Experiment and subsequently his role in the Montauk Projekt (or to be more precisely the Montauk Project itself) were debunked as pure fiction. Wonder why gullible people still continue with parroting his bedtime stories all over the web as if it was the truth.

See http://www.bielek-debunked.com for the full story.

Golf Sierra, Germany
December 21, 2009 5:06am

ur really skeptical about actual events

john roost, raleigh, north carolina
December 23, 2009 6:38pm

I was born and raised in Philadelphia, and spent many days at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, where I learned to shoot a rifle, rode my bike and later made shopping trips to the Naval Exchange and Commissary. A family friend who was stationed at the base during the war has corroborated two very different projects that were going on then and two "accidents" one which was published in the local papers, and the other that very little is mentioned.

The DE 173 (USS Eldridge) was in fact in the area but the records of it have been altered. There are other records that will substantiate these details if you care to put the time and energy into it.

Fred Mars, Corvallis, OR
December 28, 2009 1:22pm

Hm. There are so many things we don't know about. Things are kept hidden for our own 'safety.' I'm not saying I believe this, but have you ever thought, 'What if it's true?" I certainly have! The funny thing is...that if any of this was proved to be true, half of what we believed in would change forever. I think its best to have an open mind, rather than a closed one. You know what they say, 'Seeing is not believing, believing is seeing."

Anonymous, Westwego, Louisiana
January 11, 2010 2:38pm

There are pictures of it... or there is footage of a dramatization of it. I believe it was on Unsolved Mysteries. Check it out, it's enough to make people think it actually happened. That and the other video sources (the movie for example).

With so much video "evidence" it's no wonder people think it actually happened.

sdf, Holyoke, MA
January 13, 2010 6:16pm

The only thing I knew about the philadelphia experiment before this podcast . . . was that it had something to do with a U.S. navy ship (and of course, that it was an experiment)

Jonathan, Earth
January 16, 2010 4:51am

I assure you all, the truth has already been told. I carry a dream from 1979 (30 years later!!) that trace metadata does indeed reveal the existence of this experiment. There was a failed synchro (selsyn) that caused the deleterious effects (no one walked through walls so far as I know) on that poor ship. It is now scrap as of 1991.

I was on the Yard in 2001; I repaired a broken brass lock for one of the storage buildings.

I assure you, that line of experiments did, in fact, occur. The doinkings that followed were there for non-conspiry reasons.

If you want to know more,

speranza_69@hotmail.com.

STOP THE GARRULOUS CHATTER I SAY. IT IS BOTH RAUCOUS AND IRRELEVANT.

- a true survivor. Debunk away!!

Alex Speranza, Phila PA
February 15, 2010 6:34pm

this really did happen because we have photos,

steven kasper, spotswood,nj
February 27, 2010 10:38pm

Our great Country has many cover ups who's to know what's real or what's not ,just look at what the we have now flying around unseen to radar it's called the Aroura that is said to be the fastest plane ,Area 51 who knows what go's on there not even our president is aloud to go in ,now talk about cover ups ,maybe true ,then again could be just a story .
UFO's I believe in for there is way too much space for just us humans to live in ,That is one thing I would not mind seeing and that is an alien from another world better then many normal humans on our world.

Carl Reyes, New York ,NY
April 21, 2010 10:24am

Where there is this much smoke there must be a fire of truth.Experiments of this nature I believe were conducted, and the best way to cover up is to give crack pots that no one would believe accurate information, and give reputable people disinformation to be published. Which would explain why the dates are so various. But one constant in every report is that an experiment did occur on the USS Eldridge.

J. Casper, Bowling Green Ky.
May 04, 2010 7:41pm

IF you are not aware- this Project was continued at Fort Hero in Montauk, New York. The story goes that every twenty years the same rip in time and space is easily accessed. These are called "nodes". They were observed by the native americans and are counted in the Mayan calendar. Every twenty years since the Philadelphia Experiment- the covert military have conducted experiments. This was discussed by Al Bielek in early 2003- shortly before the 60 year node. He claimed that the military would be able to access the "portal" and only be able to hold it open for a few days. He also claimed that there would be a large "electro magnetic disturbance" in the area of the clandestine top secret bases, involved with the experiment.
On August 14, 2003 the east coast experienced the greatest black-out known to the western world... with no explanation.
Interestingly, three of the major players in the "Montauk Project" were in unexplainable spontaneous comas at this time.

What now?

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kassahun Mammo, Africa, Ethiopia
May 30, 2010 5:04am

With reference to the comment by Adam of Gulf Breeze, I did not know about the spontaneous comas of 3 of the people who claim to have been involved in the Montauk Project. Very interesting. Thank-you for the information.

With reference to the comment by Casper of Bowling Green, I have commented elsewhere (on another site) my opinion that Al Bielek's story may have been added to by him over the years as a result of titbits of information fed to him indirectly by the powers-that-be. Such information could easily be designed to be false, but none of Mr. Bielek's fans would bother to check such details (especially if they would be likely to depreciate the value of their "hero").

Some other people come up with a valid debunking and nobody with a brain believes anything the said person writes or says any more.

This is a classic case of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Such planted dis-information would be designed to discredit somebody like Al Bielek, but that does not mean that there is absolutely no truth in what he claims.
In fact, if he had some basis of truth in his claims, that, in itself, would be a perfectly good reason for planting said dis-information.

As a final comment, there WAS an experiment of SOME kind done on a ship at around that time in that area. I read on another site (I forget which) that there were 2 "Eldridges". 1 was a prototype, and was used in the experiments, and the other was the "production model" which is the 1 shown in records.

Paul Arthur Reeves, Ryde, U. K.
June 05, 2010 2:33pm

I actually saw footage of Al Bielek's famous 1990 speech not long after the fact. I was absolutely stunned and, not knowing his name or anything else (like where exactly the speech was, though it was obviously at a conference about UFOs), I have tried to get more info since. I recently found out his name, and how his story has changed CONSIDERABLY since the well-known version I saw. I was dismayed to find him outright contradicting himself, and started to realise he is one of those sad attention-getters who prey on those with open minds, not just in a pathetic cry of "Look at MEEE!!!", but also for the dollars. I know he has "fans" who would defend him to the bitter end, even if he admitted it was all fake (they would claim the Govt. silenced him with fear of deportation to 65 million years ago or some such!)... but you have to be objective and see he is not even concerned about the flagrant contradictions he himself has perpetuated. I have not been influenced by any debunkers - simply compared the story I heard come from his own mouth with what he has on his website now, and thought "Whoa! Hold on - what happened here??". Seems MANY others have noticed too. If you are TRULY objective, and not just some sad kook who believes any conspiracy theory, you should look into it too. A good place to start is http://www.bielek-debunked.com/. Sorry to burst any bubbles, but there's nothing dignified about allowing yourself to be led on by an outright liar who keeps changing the story!

Paul Atreides, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
August 05, 2010 6:41pm

So were they just working on a new militarised Philidelphia Cheese Steak?

Tom H, Kent, UK
August 19, 2010 9:50am